4CMC
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the molecular mass of both 4-chloromethcatinone and 3-cloromethcatinone are identical, the fact that the position of the halogen on the aromatic moiety is different (para vs meta) results in a different change ellicited in the target protein it binds to (be it conformational, affinity or just different docking), you are true they are not the same effect wise but from a synthetic standpoint the procedure is identical even though it starts from different precursors (4-chloropropiophenone and 3-chloropropiophenone respectively). I hope this was clear enough, if not, you may consider reading some basic not necessarily drug related organic chemistry like most of us already did.
I've got a question, if you had the choice between synthesizing the MMCs or the CMCs why would you ever pick CMC? with how neurotoxic it is and the fact that 4CMC is illegal too it doesn't make any sense. 3CMC maybe just because it's legal but besides that you're better off with just going to synthesize 3/4MMC
Everyone always has a choice, but the choice is decided for or against by outer factors.
Simply answered, cause the para-halogenation it is subjectively from my experience a way rushier and actually stimulating substance than 4-MMC. I "only" done 3-CMC and 4-MMC (3-CMC in total in the kilograms range, and 4-MMC not as much but to a way lower tolerance each redose overdoses, not to say to follow this, but learn from my mistakes and prevent them)
Well the stigma around para-halogenated methcathinones is extremely huge and wrong misconception, everything is, some less and some more, but it is calculable. To my knowing, there is not a single research paper that would state that para-halogenation in methcathinones increased the neurotoxicity as to the MMC's, both being way less destructive than compared to desoxyephedrine[methylamphetamine] or MDMA.
The research papers that state severe neurotoxical damage from these compounds made the experiements with such dosages of 4-CMC that would be in the lethal zone anyways, and of course then the neurotoixicity will be severe.
Longer period time of binging ANY drug will result in severe neurotoxical, cystoxical, and in general damage done to the human body and brain. Everyone's neurochemistry and biology and other factors differ from each other, meaning the results will be also highly different from patient to patient
Most of the times, talking about Eastern European areas, the main view on these substances are not even close to legality, as it's being sold on the streets mainly due to a huge demand and crisis, under various names. The percentage of people who purchase 3-CMC for the law status it falls into are very shallow.
Everyone should decide what their personal preference is based on their experiences, some people will prefer MMC's and some the CMC's or EMC's or MEC's, it's impossible to say what is better of, only not if you talk about your own personal preference.
Simply answered, cause the para-halogenation it is subjectively from my experience a way rushier and actually stimulating substance than 4-MMC. I "only" done 3-CMC and 4-MMC (3-CMC in total in the kilograms range, and 4-MMC not as much but to a way lower tolerance each redose overdoses, not to say to follow this, but learn from my mistakes and prevent them)
Well the stigma around para-halogenated methcathinones is extremely huge and wrong misconception, everything is, some less and some more, but it is calculable. To my knowing, there is not a single research paper that would state that para-halogenation in methcathinones increased the neurotoxicity as to the MMC's, both being way less destructive than compared to desoxyephedrine[methylamphetamine] or MDMA.
The research papers that state severe neurotoxical damage from these compounds made the experiements with such dosages of 4-CMC that would be in the lethal zone anyways, and of course then the neurotoixicity will be severe.
Longer period time of binging ANY drug will result in severe neurotoxical, cystoxical, and in general damage done to the human body and brain. Everyone's neurochemistry and biology and other factors differ from each other, meaning the results will be also highly different from patient to patient
Most of the times, talking about Eastern European areas, the main view on these substances are not even close to legality, as it's being sold on the streets mainly due to a huge demand and crisis, under various names. The percentage of people who purchase 3-CMC for the law status it falls into are very shallow.
Everyone should decide what their personal preference is based on their experiences, some people will prefer MMC's and some the CMC's or EMC's or MEC's, it's impossible to say what is better of, only not if you talk about your own personal preference.