Methamphetamine From Ephedrine by Iodine and Red P

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Starting reagents and materials​

  • 6 g Synthetic ephedrine hydrochloride racemate​
  • 1.8 g Red phosphorous (P)​
  • 12 g Iodine (I2)​
  • 100-150 ml H2O​
  • 3 g Sodium thiosulfate (Na2S2O3)​
  • 24 ml 25% NaOH​
  • 250-300 ml DCM​
  • 100 ml Petroleum ether​
  • HCl gas​
  • 100 g NH4Cl​
  • 25 ml H2SO4 83%​
  • Flasks 250 and 500 ml
  • Beakers
  • Anhydrous sodium sulfate
  • Funnels
  • Separating funnel
  • Magnetic stirrer with heating
  • Flask heater
  • Reflux
  • Paper filters
  • Pipettes
  • Porcelain filter for vacuum filtration
  • Chen's reagents
  • Simon's reagents
  • pH indicator paper

The process way presented on Scheme 1.
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Starting reagents for meth synthesis: synthetic ephedrine hydrochloride racemate, red P, I2 and H2O. Fig. 1
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Ephedrine hydrochloride ground into a powder in a mortar. Fig 2​
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The powder of ephedrine hydrochloride is poured into the flask. Fig 3​
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To the powder of ephedrine hydrochloride, red P are added. Fig 4​
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Ephedrine hydrochloride thoroughly mixed with red P until homogeneous mass. Fig 5​
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Iodine (I2) is grounded into a powder. Fig 6​
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The powder of I2 is added in portions to the mixture in the flask while continuously mixing. Fig 7​
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All components are mixed until a homogeneous mass is obtained. Fig 8​
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Then, water (6 ml) is rapidly added. Fig 9​
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Reflux condenser is connected to the flask, and the mixture is heated at a temperature of 60-80°C for 24 hours. Fig 10​
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To the resulting reaction mixture, 15-20 ml of water is added. Fig 11​
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The reaction mixture is filtered through a paper filter. The filter is additionally washed with water. Fig 12​
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Solution of NaOH added to the filtered solution of RM. Fig 13​
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Then a solution of sodium thiosulfate is added. Fig 14​
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Next, 100 ml of DCM is added. Fig 15​
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The DCM extract is separated. Further, the solution undergoes 2-3 extractions with fresh portions of DCM, each ranging from 20 to 50 ml. Fig 16​
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The DCM is dried over anhydrous sodium sulfate. Fig 17​
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The dried DCM is distilled at a temperature of 90-110°C until the all DCM distilled off. Fig 18​
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To the obtained oil, 30 ml of petroleum ether is added. Fig 19​
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The solution is filtered through a paper filter, and the flask is rinsed with an additional 20-30 ml of petroleum ether. Fig 20​
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Impurities in the form of resin remain on the walls of the flask. Fig 21​
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The filtered solution is saturated with gaseous HCl until it reaches an acidic pH and white precipitate forms. Fig 22​
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The Simon's test for the white precipitate is positive to meth. Fig 23​
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The Chen's reaction for ephedrine is negative in the obtained material. In the right is the test with pure ephedrine - control test. Fig 24​
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To the precipitate, 30 ml of petroleum ether is added and it is filtered through a porous filter. If necessary, it is additionally washed with a portion of petroleum ether and then dried. Fig 25​
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The dry powder of methamphetamine hydrochloride. Fig 26​
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The reaction yield is 4.16 g or 75 %​
 
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Very detailed explanation, chemist, I now have 57% hydroiodic acid, red phosphorus, iodine, pseudoephedrine hydrochloride, and distilled water. Can you tell me the addition ratio, reflux temperature and time?
 

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I dont understand why thats way, i just asking because better way for me will be always E+P+H3PO4 85%<+… and heating to 110C and start gradually dropping I according to quantity E in reaction, basically when i filtered reaction to container with toluene or xylen and added mixture NaOh with water so I have that’s same clean freebase what I can filtered from dry NaOh what perfectly absorbed all impurities after 2-3times adding mixture HCl 32%<+ with water for every times shaking and separate smaller part so like that I can do make more beautifully product without recrystallisation BUT GUYS I DONT WANT LOOKS LIKE A BEST SMARTER DUDE ON WORLD ONLY JUST ASKED WHY SO COMPLICATED BECAUSE A NEVER TRYING OTHER METHOD WHAT I KNOW DO IT. 🙃 peace 🤘
 

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you can calculated by your self look here

temperature is brought to boil
the time of reaction is by TLC
 

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Thank you for your answer. I have read Patton's post. I'm not a chemist, but a child from an ordinary poor family. It's difficult to calculate Moore. Because my education is very low, I asked my questions.
 

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Sorry, I sent it repeatedly.
 

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Can I use just KI crystals exept those iodone crystals in this synthesis, do you know? I can exctract iodine from that KI but what I have read ...
 

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Does this not seem like a bit much I? 12g and Only 1.8g of P? Just seeking clarification
 

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Why did you use dcm, can this be done without dcm? Also isn't it a bit much to use 12g of I2 for 6g of ephedrine?
 

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As far as I know, there must be an excess of iodine to convert ephedrine into iodine, and iodine is not like red phosphorus.
 

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You can use petroleum ether, Benzene or Toluene
 

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Which one is better of all sailors i Which one of these types of sailors is better in my country is hard to find
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Can I use xylene, instead of DCM?
 

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At what stage would there be Phosgene generated?
 

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It won't produce phosgene. There will be hydrogen phosphide gas if it is more than 130. Be careful with this.
 

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PhosphinePH3
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Careful, bit of an understatement :)
 

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Yep! :). When I am doing this synthesis, if I put PVC-hose from condenser to a gas trap full of sodium carbonate and activated charcoal, what can I do to prevent from the gas trap water solution sucking back to my reaction bottle? Do you gave ideas, Handle?
 

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in all time of process generated PH3, big volume forming when add P to I2 in first time
 

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I didn't understood the 16th stage ("The DCM extract is separated. Further, the solution undergoes 2-3 extractions with fresh portions of DCM, each ranging from 20 to 50 ml."). Can you explain, please.
 

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It means: separate the first added DCM from RM, then extract RM with the new DCM, and then merge all DCM.
 

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Why do we use dcm instead of toluene, what is the advantage
 
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