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Hola a todos. Realmente necesito ayuda para entenderlo. Necesito retirar como 10k$ al mes de mi monedero XMR o BTC. ¿Cuál es la manera más fácil de hacer esto? Creo que acerca de comprar PayPall cuenta o smth pero mb estoy equivocado. Ofc que tiene que ser muy anónima y sin ningún tipo de seguimiento a mí
 

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O no lo sé pero sé que no es PayPal esos tipos son gilipollas si eres una empresa. Cuando tenía un negocio que utilizaba PayPal para aceptar tarjetas de crédito y dinero en nombre de mi negocio, me bloqueaban la cuenta cada semana y me acosaban para preguntarme qué me compraba la gente y, si había alguna disputa, me quitaban el dinero y me lo devolvían sin siquiera mencionarlo o darme la oportunidad de arbitrar.
 

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Si yo ni siquiera soy un vendedor, yo sólo lo uso para un couplef amigos y una mañana después de una sola transacción que completamente bloqueado, no podía tocar mi saldo y probablemente nunca lo haría. Tengo que darles helll sin parar durante 24 horas y, finalmente, cuando traje a la Better Business Bureau se agrietó y me dejó entrar. Nunca los volveré a tocar.
 

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si hablamos de PayPal..........si huelen el más mínimo tufillo de algo raro, ellos (PayPal) bloquearán tu cuenta de cualquier transacción de criptomonedas durante 3 días. Si en el día 2 y 12 horas, intenta realizar transacciones de nuevo, que reinicia el reloj y bloqueado de nuevo durante 3 días. Yo uso PayPal para todos mis "conoce a tu cliente" por encima del tablero, no cosas anónimas. Al igual que ni siquiera se molestan con una VPN. ¿Por qué PayPal? La fuerza de la costumbre, además de que hacen las cosas muy fácil. Si quieres un puto reto, crea una cartera Monero desde la web oficial de Monero. Me sentí como James Bond después de configurar eso. Me encantan las drogas y la química. Odio absolutamente tener que lidiar con VPN, tor, criptografía, claves PGP, bla, bla, bla, bla .............pero TENGO QUE HACERLO.
 

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¿Ha mirado ya el monero local?
 

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Sí. Pero, ¿es lo bastante seguro?
 
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No soy ni mucho menos un experto, así que tómese esto con pinzas, pero creo que el atractivo de XMR es su seguridad (y sus tarifas de transacción baratísimas: hoy he pagado 2 céntimos por enviar algo). Muchos vendedores han empezado a ofrecerlo y lo prefieren a Bitcoin. Lo siento, no puedo darle los detalles de por qué es mejor.
 

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Uunfortunately localmonero ha cerrado sus puertas y cerrado desde que publiqué el.

Una alternativa es que un intercambio de su elección, pero una moneda con bajas tasas de transacción (litecoin es bueno) y luego enviarlo a la cartera de la torta y hacer su intercambio allí. Su cartera bastante simple y plataforma de intercambio
 

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Update to this older thread if anyone else finds it... localmonero has been resurrected and brought back as openmonero.co so check them out. As for trustworthy, the seller must basically deposit an amount greater than they will be trading in to the site. When a transaction begins the site automatically locks an amount of their deposit equal to the amount being traded. If the seller decides to run off with your money then the site will simply release the locked up funds to you preventing a problem with getting scammed. Also, there are some constant regulars. When you start looking to initiate a transaction with someone who already has 22,138 successfully completed transactions andd a 100% track record..... well there are no guarantees in life, but I know I feel comfortable dealing with them. Besides, the spread that they are profitting off of makes it far more beneficial to remain a trustworthy seller. A single transaction may cost you $7-12 over market rate but you get a no kyc transaction and the seller is busy racking up those transaction fees all day long on both ends of the field. He will sell you monero for a profit with whatever your preferred payment method is, and he will also buy monero or btc on the other end each time raking in the profits.... Damn, sounds like I should just invest $5K into crypto holdings and trade for no kyc profit... While I'm sure the powers that be are already devising ways to make it a crime, I'm pretty sure there are no current laws that require me as a personal transaction to collect or verify identification, and no laws as of yet preventing me from conducting multiple small transactions in which I begin to acquire a significant profit regularily....which I would unfortunately find too difficult to maintain accurate ongoing records of due to the constantly fluxuating value of several different currencies, transaction fees, forgetfulness, and general apathy towards governmental efforts to try and regulate my personal affiars....

damn this ADHD, always end up off the rails rambling about something without a clue how I managed to get there most of the time.... with that being said...

there is also some promising services offered by the changeNOW and the half dozen related apps like NOW Wallet, NOW tracker, etc. and the ability to perform certain amounts of no kyc trades on their network for a minor transaction fee. I have used ChangeNOW and Changelly a number of times to convert BTC to Monero without having to provide my entire life history in order to conduct my business with them. Hell, you don't even need to make an account, simply a matter of providing your receiving address and amount and type of crypto to exchange followed by initiating a transfer to the address they provide you after accepting the terms.

OK, that's my limit for the day... I need to try and get some other things accomplished.
 

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Fairly close, if a seller decides to run off with your money, he quickly realizes that's stupid, because he doesn't have your money, and he can't steal it touch it look at it or do anything, because they don't get it until you push "finalize". DON'T GO TO TELEGRAM OR SESSION TO DO A DEAL they will try that because they want to steal your money. Paying 5% insurance to never get ripped off again is worth every penny
 
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