Sinteza fenilacetona (P2P) iz benzaldehida z butanonom Imam vprašanje Kemijski izračun in padec pH

Felix34-73

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p2p kemijski
80 ml benzaldehida 80 ml metil etil ketona
160ml čiste vode klorform 64+64
240gr natrijevega bikarbonata|240g magnezijevega sulfata
800ml ledene ocetne kisline 104gr 50% vodikovega peroksida
240gr magnezijevega sulfata
800ml čiste vode 400ml kloroforma
48 g natrijevega hidroksida 200 ml destilirane vode 80 ml kloroforma
240 g magnezijevega sulfata
Ali je ta kemijski izračun pravilen? prosim za nujen odgovor
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Ali naj pH znižam z vodo in natrijevim bikarbonatom ali naj uporabim samo natrijev bikarbonat?
 

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Za postopek z nevtralnim pH bom uporabil natrijev karbonat + koliko Gr, pH v ločilnem lijaku bo nevtralen, mešanico skarbonata in vode lahko naredim neposredno v raztopini in jo spravim na raven pH 7.
 

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uporaba kakršne koli vode v tej reakciji bo dala slabe izkoristke, nastali p2p pa se bo hidroliziral in nato bo dovzeten za kondenzacijo s p2p/samim seboj, kar bo povzročilo nižje izkoristke, prav tako bi uporabil bikarbonat, za katerega so poročali, da pospešuje reakcijo
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0040403902016295
 

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da ne omenjam, da bo dodajanje vode povzročilo, da bo ocetna kislina reagirala z bikarbonatom
 

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I didn't really get Felix's post. If you're talking about Baeyer-Williger:

I always use sodium carbonate to make neutral solution. When I raise the pH in BV-oxidation to less acidic, or neutral, it makes the peracetic- or performic acid less reactive, and that prevents little bit of those side reactions, like doing it without external heat does also prevent them from forming (not 100%). Thats what I learned from Rhodium Archives about peracid oxidations. Those carbonates won't react otherwise with at least those two peracids. When the sodium carbonate reacts with acetic acid solution, it produces sodium acetate, that have also something good, or at least nothing bad to do with the oxidation reaction. I don't remember ..
 

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morate navesti več informacij, na primer, kakšen je postopek, ki ga načrtujete, saj vam lahko takoj povem, da če boste vse skupaj samo zmešali, ne boste naredili nič drugega kot veliko zmedo
 
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