Butane Extraction of Raw Opium?

[KS365]

So I am very curious, I saw you can extract a rudimentary form of raw opium using EToH
My husband makes BHO, and various other hash's from cannabis using different solvents getting different results in terms of fats lipids alkaloids etc.
he was researching the other night and thinks blasting some pods would be an interesting experiment, Just wondering if anyone has tried this, or knows on a deeper level why this would or would not be a good idea.

 

[YenaneY]

So butanol can be used as a solvent and it gets used as a solvent sometimes, but I've never heared of it in the context of raw-opium extraction. Some considerations on this idea would be that butanol evaporates a lot slower than ethanol, so if you would try to distill of the solvent after the extraction butanol would be worse then ethanol. Also Butanol is generally a bit less polar than ethanol. I think dissolving opium in butanol would probably work, but I haven't tested it and it might be a bit harder due to the polarity and evaporating it off would be harder.

 

[KS365]

I am a little confused what you mean by butanol being harder to evaporate than ethanol, It is the same process, just a warm bath or putting it near outtake fan and keep the ambient temp around 100 degrees,

Ethanol takes FAR longer to evaporate in my own experience,
Perhaps you mean there is something else in the butane not evaporating? like an adulterant of some sort?
Butane is a gas at room temp, Ethanol can maintain a liquid state at fairly high temps, Only evaporating after literal days, Whereas butane can be dissipated in an hour.

I've been making Butane Hash Oil for years using this method, and butane has always been the desired method for extracting what I want from the plant leaving behind any bs alkaloids etc, so I thought maybe just maybe it would be worth a shot,
I read somewhere in my digging around that raw opium and raw cannabis extract are very similar, and i can't remember the details off hand, I'd have to look it up again, but I remember it felt like a light bulb go off,
and I was pretty certain it would work in the same way as in cannabis, albeit a bit different due to the nature of morphine and thc

My main goal is to find something effective that removes the need for extra purification steps,

 

[YenaneY]

I thought you meant butanol, which has a boiling point of 117 (Celsius), whereas ethanol has 78, also the vapor pressure of ethanol is around 60 mmHg at 25, while the one of butanol only is around 6 at the same temperature, therefore ethanol evaporates more readily than butanol.

Butane as a gas would indeed evaporate faster (boiling point around 0 and vapor pressure far higher). I just thought it was about butanol as I mostly considered solvents that are liquids at RT as favorable.

I don't think there would necessarily be adulterants in the butane, as that would depend on purity of the butane.

 

[KS365]

I think I am going to try this, I'll let you know what happens,

 

[reptilianeyes]

I'm excited to hear the results. But one thing to think about. So we all understand how BHO works with butane extraction. We're separating the thc alkaloids from the plant matter. The difference between poppy and weed that the substance is on the outside of the walls of the plant matter where poppys alkaloids is the substance that's is in-between the fibers and inside of the walls of the plant matter. Hence liquid solvent heat extraction is works as it naturally does. The thing is too you can use H20 as a "solvent" since most poppy alkaloids are water soluble but the thing that both have in common iis that alcohol extraction works both on poppy and marijuana. All I'm saying is maybe the opium plant matter or whatever has to be processed first. Whatever that process method maybe is also another curious question. ANYWAYS. GOOD LUCK can't wait to hear the results