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I'd like to get into synthesis and production and after looking threw this forum I'm amazed how many talented people are here!

So my first question is, what's a good and cheap supply to order substances to produce 4mmc? I think even if I tried to synthesize them it would be impossible to get hold of some specific substances.

So can anyone guide me a way to get into the whole thing?
I dont want to invest too much money and want to build a small lab step by step, if that's even possible.

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Hello, any Expert of our forum can help with the organization of production. You need to define your goals and possibilities.
Synthesis of 4mmc is quite simple. The main thing is to find a proven supplier of chemicals in your region.

For the first synthesis of 4 mmc I recommend
2B4M - 100 g
DCM - 300 ml
Methylamine 40% aq solution - 200 ml
Hydrochloric acid - 50 ml
Dry acetone - 200 ml

To find a supplier of reagents and equipment write me in PM. Also let's discuss together all the nuances of the process.
 
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I know how it's done, I need cheap ground substances to test out the procedure.
I dont want to waste time snd money when I just can buy overpriced 4mmc of a vendor. That would be easier than discussing here stuff wich is unnecessary.
How to start without cheap base substances?
 
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You click "chemical reagents" and there it is, you get your substances from chinese vendors
 

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I know but the custom controll will make this impossible in my opinion.
 

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It won't go threw customs because every parcel from a non EU country has to be opened and declared what it its value
 

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I have ordered many times from the chinese vendors and there was never any problems, even if the goods get seized the vendor ship it again
 

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Yeah but I would prefer to buy from within EU just to stay safe. I also don't want to avoid to pick up the parcel at the post office because I'd have to pay taxes...so anybody from pl, hungary, slovakia or cz would be great...
 

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there are some chemicals sellers based in eu
 

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Mmm try to buy from eu haha
 

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It's not that easy to find a good reliable resource...
 

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especially without trying, only saying how difficult everything is and how many things can go wrong
 

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I can recommend you trusted vendors I buy from
 
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