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Melted Methamphetamin turns Blue

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I noticed that when my PSE powder melts, the powder turns bluish. Now I have subjected the methamphetamine to a melt test on a glass and it also turns blue. Is it possible that I still have a lot of unreacted Pse in my product ? If YES what can be the reason for it? wrong temperature??? cooking time???
or is there another contamination?

i hope someone can help me fix this problem.
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What kind of pills are you using?
 

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So, methylamine reacts with alkali metals and electropositive metals to form blue " electrides" which are caused by solvated electrons. This is normal and probably what tou are seeing
 

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What reaction sequence are you using?
 

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I have only had that happen using redphos Iodine with time release went from fluffy white to as dark blue as pen ink ok quality poor yield this in the mid 90s
 

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I am useing the hypophosphoric route with red phos iodine …
What route shall i use that the quality is better?
 

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I am useing the hypophosphoric route with red phos iodine …
What route shall i use that the quality is better?
DirkDigglerHello I noticed a topic on the forum, so I have a question, what amounts do you use for the reaction of Iodine and Red Phosphorus , and ortho acid , ??? Give the quantities using 1 kg of Ephedrine???
 

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She doesn't get too hot that route is fine I am not sure what the blue is I never really looked into it cuz it wasn't a quality issue although heat is my main suspect
 

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She doesn't get too hot that route is fine I am not sure what the blue is I never really looked into it cuz it wasn't a quality issue although heat is my main suspect
testintWhat temperature would u say is ok for that route??? i use 110 - 130 C for that
 

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I noticed that when my PSE powder melts, the powder turns bluish. Now I have subjected the methamphetamine to a melt test on a glass and it also turns blue. Is it possible that I still have a lot of unreacted Pse in my product ? If YES what can be the reason for it? wrong temperature??? cooking time???
or is there another contamination?

i hope someone can help me fix this problem.
Thanks
Kind Regards
DirkDiggler90% of the time, I'm betting on the extraction of the dog from the second substance contained in the medicine you use. it happened to me with rhinopront.
 

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I was useing rhinopront also… the product works but it was not as clean as i want to
 

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Who knows why this Meth turns blue/green ?
 

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According to a search of the most exhaustive Meth Making message board in history.(, the Hive archive) "Smurf dope" is the result of Histamine blockers; Loperamide, Chorphenimin, and loratadine Not getting removed from the psuedoephedrine pills ( possibly even whole pill shake and bake) and using iron or copper can cause it to be greenish tinted 🧑‍🔬
 

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According to a search of the most exhaustive Meth Making message board in history.(, the Hive archive) "Smurf dope" is the result of Histamine blockers; Loperamide, Chorphenimin, and loratadine Not getting removed from the psuedoephedrine pills ( possibly even whole pill shake and bake) and using iron or copper can cause it to be greenish tinted 🧑‍🔬
Frit Buchnerhow can i clean the Pills from that ??
 
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how can i clean the Pills from that ??
DirkDigglerThat's a great question. I would give it an annhydrous acetone rinse to start . If that didn't work I'd dissolve it in hot IPA and run it through the buchner funnel second. I'd dissolve it in chloroform and send it through the buchner funnel 3rd and I would try it with water second (dissolving it and running it through the buchner funnel) since water is the cheapest solvent. I see chlorophineramine and loperamide is soluble in water alcohol and chloroform so acetone is your only.hope and it probably isn't soluble in it and neither is meth. So that is a good explanation why it's in there . Loratsdine is NOT soluble in water, so that's your only hope unless you have MEK DMSO or something else good
 

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That's a great question. I would give it an annhydrous acetone rinse to start . If that didn't work I'd dissolve it in hot IPA and run it through the buchner funnel second. I'd dissolve it in chloroform and send it through the buchner funnel 3rd and I would try it with water second (dissolving it and running it through the buchner funnel) since water is the cheapest solvent. I see chlorophineramine and loperamide is soluble in water alcohol and chloroform so acetone is your only.hope and it probably isn't soluble in it and neither is meth. So that is a good explanation why it's in there . Loratsdine is NOT soluble in water, so that's your only hope unless you have MEK DMSO or something else good
Frit BuchnerThank you for that good information...i allways clesan my product with acetone and do a recrystallisation with Ethanol....but it still turns blue.
 

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Thank you for that good information...i allways clesan my product with acetone and do a recrystallisation with Ethanol....but it still turns blue.
DirkDigglerI usually start typing and right before I hit return do 3 minutes worth of research and the research said that stuff doesn't come out easily, which made sense because if it did it wouldn't be in there
 
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