Slamming self cooked Flakka and Krokodil together

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The hamster of my hometrainer wants to cook Flakka (A-pvp) and Krokodil (Desomorphin), mix them up and inject them all day long.
He has already bought important ingredients like gasoline and drain cleaner.

He is ready to go. Now what can he do for best harm reduction?
 
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loose the croc
 

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I just have a general question about Krokodil . I have only seen the propaganda on the drug. What is the deal with people saying it causes necrosis?
 

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If I remember correctly, it is basically a red p/iodine cook of codeine tablets to make desomorphine ? Few other steps or ingredients involved in the process that make it difficult to completely clean for one reason or another. That makes it inherently dangerous no matter how much care is taken. In other words there is always risk with IV krokodil. Not sure exactly about other routes of ingestion or purification. IE steam distillation.

Yeaaa... find a better opiate to speedball with, the krok can't be helped. Not sure about 'Flakka'.
 

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If I remember correctly, it is basically a red p/iodine cook of codeine tablets to make desomorphine ? Few other steps or ingredients involved in the process that make it difficult to completely clean for one reason or another. That makes it inherently dangerous no matter how much care is taken. In other words there is always risk with IV krokodil. Not sure exactly about other routes of ingestion or purification. IE steam distillation.

Yeaaa... find a better opiate to speedball with, the krok can't be helped. Not sure about 'Flakka'.
SoldadoDeDrogasThanks, I guess the production process can cause some problems for the end user
 

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Thanks, I guess the production process can cause some problems for the end user
miner21Yeah, I don't think it is just laziness or carelessness that makes it such an issue. I am not sure exactly what it is.... impurities, additives, poor hygiene and IV practice... a combination of all the above. Bottom line: "Not safe for human consumption." One way or another... end of story.
 

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Yeah, I don't think it is just laziness or carelessness that makes it such an issue. I am not sure exactly what it is.... impurities, additives, poor hygiene and IV practice... a combination of all the above. Bottom line: "Not safe for human consumption." One way or another... end of story.
SoldadoDeDrogasLet me be the one to put my foot in my mouth.
It says in here that if produced with enough care taken the majority of risks involved with impurities can be avoided. Consumers and providers suggest that: "Skilled cooks can prepare a krokodil solution that can be injected without the excessive harms discussed."

I suppose if the process is the same as reducing ephedrine into meth, krok can be produced and used relatively without harm. Afterall, meth never came with the flesh eating horror propaganda.

I wonder, has anyone heard of anyone throwing in codeine WITH their EP/PSE during a RP/I2 ephedrine/pseudo refluxing session? Can they both be reacted at the same time? Then further based, extracted and salted together? "One stop shop Hydroiodic speedball salt / solution" :unsure: Fuck it, ... I'll try some deso-crank....
 

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no, there were/are not using red p or iodine.
they used things you get everywhere like gasoline or drain cleaner.

it's not that drain cleaner can be used to make ghb... so no issue with that.
 

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no, there were/are not using red p or iodine.
they used things you get everywhere like gasoline or drain cleaner.

it's not that drain cleaner can be used to make ghb... so no issue with that.
CranstonHey.... MacGuyver....!
How do you propose to make desomorphine without RP/I2? Shake and bake ?
What are you even talking about? Speedballing all day? Krokodil? Harm reduction ? ....

If you're gonna make krok, just make meth. Figure out how to get some good down.. someone has gotta have heroin or a decent substitute...
Put in an infusion line like they do in the hospital and you can IV whatever you want.. as much and when ever you want and avoid most of the trouble.
I have similar ambitions and this sounds like a kamikaze mission to me... a most dishonorable one, and poorly thought, at that.
 

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Okay got ya. So all that news was legit then
 

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The humor thread is about the poor "anything goes" to be named as the krokodil bite
 

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Okay that makes a lot of sense
 

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15 batches APVP - impurities
 

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15 batches APVP - impurities
visDude, this is happening when bad chemists create worse chemicals.
it gets even worse, when the bad chemists care more about "hornyposters" than about good products and health.
 

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That is a fear of mine. Getting a bad batch of something
 
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