Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)

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What temperature do I boil the IPA in it
 

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60-65°C
 

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How much do I put in IPA
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When sodium hydroxide is poured over the reaction mixture, what is the required pH?
 

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just the necessary to dissolve it

neutral, PH 6
 

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I know this, my friend, but I mean how much pH is required before applying sulfuric acid
 

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I do not understand the question. You have to apply the sulfuric acid with the acetone and with that mixture lower the pH of the amphetamine dissolved in alcohol until reaching a pH of 6.
 

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If we reach pH 6, does that mean that the synthesis is correct and the product is amphetamine? How do I know that the product is amphetamine?
 

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I use tap water and its alkalinity is weak.. What is the appropriate way to increase the alkalinity of the reaction mixture
 

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Are you using tap water to perform the synthesis? You have to use sodium hydroxide and distilled/demineralized water. Normal or tap water will be contaminated and I don't know if it will work for synthesis.

The product looks like Amphetamine to the naked eye and with the smell. If you have another color that is not white, it will also be amphetamine but contaminated. But really with the smell if you've ever had amphetamine it will be very familiar to you.

I already have 4 synthetic amphetamines and the truth is that I have to say that because I have not had experience with chemistry. I am very satisfied with the results and yields. I already have 4 synthetic amphetamines and the truth is that I have never had experience with chemistry. I am very satisfied with the results and yields.
 
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I have a question. In the last step of dissolving amphetamine in alcohol and mixing it with acetone/sulfuric acid I have a little problem.

I measure the pH until I try to get a pH of 6. But it ends up with a too dense "paste" that prevents me from measuring the pH correctly. Do you know why it could happen or what I should do?

I obtained the sulfuric acid by evaporating it with a battery electrolyte water bath and perhaps the purity of the acid is about 90%-95%. Could this be the reason?

Thank you very much. This forum is wonderful.
 

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If the solution becomes too thick during the titration, this is due to the amount of salt that precipitates, simply add more solvent to dilute it, this does not really affect the pH value.

If your sulfuric acid is contaminated, it is most likely by water. Amphetamine sulfate dissolves in water, which means you will have a loss in yield, but it should be minimal.
 

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>pH13 in best case, but read the instructions.
If you have followed this synthesis and drop sulfuric acid into your solution at the end, then amphetamine sulfate will precipitate there until you reach pH6, anything below that means loss in yield and further impurities.
In general, the product should still be purified after synthesis.
Yes, tap water is also for drinking, why should that also be alkaline? How about going to a drugstore, getting distilled water and sodium hydroxide to make a lye and get your solution alkaline? But that is also in the instructions.
 

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I was wondering about aluminium sheet instead of foil, BHBlueberry used them in his version of this synthesis suggesting that (I think 5 mm thick) sheet will be better, do you know something about this option?

Link to His synthesis where he uses sheet:
 
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I want to make a sulfuric acid solution for MDMA sulphate. How can I make a solution that I can use for salting the base? Make sulphuric acid solution with IPA then dry the IPA with mgs04? will this be ok.
 

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Thank you for your interaction and assistance. The important question now is how do I know the method of recoil, and when the recoil occurs
 

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Hi guys. What do you think of this vacuum pump to filter amphetamine?

It could work?


 

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If you want to do bigger reactions idk if you can use foil, you will need thicker aluminium like aluminium sheet. The reason for is the foil being so thin it reacts quickly and while its good for smaller scale, its not good big scale, you need it all to be reacting over a longer period of time
 

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A vacuum pump always helps in the lab, especially when you have to do a lot of filtering and drying.
The cheapest purchase will probably be a water jet pump, but it consumes a lot of water.

With a vacuum pump, you should pay attention to the resistance and think about the purchase of a cold trap, which additionally protects the pump from chemicals gases.
What is meant by method recoil?
It is always better to use as anhydrous solvent as possible if the obtained salt dissolves well in water, it increases the yield.
 

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When the mixture reacts, there is no reflux process, why?
 
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