Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)

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I can not seem to locate Anhydrous Acetone...Whenever I used acetone in the past for a synthesis it was acetone from a
hardware store, the brand is called klean strip. What is the difference, and can a hardware store acetone be use in the

Amphetamine synthesis???​

 

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Just asking out curiosity...if we were unable to acquire the 2L flat bottom flask seen in the first video and substituted it with something like a milk gallon, would the heat cause it to melt and essentially contaminate the synthesis?
Also, in the same first video, do we use all 50g of the Sodium Hydroxide for the solution?
 

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You can carry out an experiment: pour 60-70 deg hot water into this kind bottle and keep it for 10-15 min. Take into account that you can't attach reflux condenser to this bottle.
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will the use of no reflux cause any issues within the synthesis?
 

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Solvent will be evaporated partially or completely.
 

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I disagree with you, you can make quite accurate determinations if a person is legitimate or not buy asking a few questions.

And no, the reason for SMART people is to not give out their contacts publicly, everything that is public is suddenly under law enforcements watch list. Less people know of some suppliers the better for people who are serious and work large scale operations.

I would disagree with G.Patton to a certain extent, yes BBlistings offer legitimate sources, but they are unregulated when it comes to prices. I've spoken to some and their arguments are laughable.

The prices should be regulated on the forum matching the outside market and keep on being regulated and not use the U.S. "open market" value system.
 

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It means a market economy. Nobody will sell with a loss. If we will regulate prices, nobody will work with us. We just can regulate deal fulfilling as escrow service.
 

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G.Patton,

I would have to disagree with you on this post also.

People will work here if there is a market, and the request as we can see is high on the forum.

Regulating a market has does not mean loss for sellers, this is not how economy works. If you have a regulated market it means more prospects will be interested in working on the forum and the members will feel more safe.

Let's for instance make an example:

One of you actuall sellers here on BB-list, sells P2nP / 1KG for 200$ the target price in Europe is 100$. Which means the vendor makes atleast 100% profit, how is it a loss if the market would be regulated to 100$/KG? Ofcourse they will make a profit, not 100% but maybe 20% instead.

This is a business and should be treated accordingly, I believe the forum will make more losses in the long run because of an unregulated market because as you can see, majority of members are actually looking for sources outside of the forum because people know the market is much cheaper outside of the forum and the quality is equal.
 

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You are a very strange person.
If people ask for a product you claim you always can find it and allot below the normal price .
but you never answer directly . Only true, in a very sneaky way.
I don't trust you to be honest.
 

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I did not understand your point.

If you want to discuss this topic further, please, send me a PM.
 

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Hello, can you please help me ?

Is it possible to take Lithiumaluminiumhydrid in THF (LiAlH4) instead of Al/Hg with your method shown in the video ?

Can I copy your way of synthesis with using LiAlH4 in THF ?
 

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No, sir. LiAH is for lab use only, it is VERY pyrophoric.Read saftey data sheet of what you want to work with please!Also, you have procedure for LiAH reduction somewhere in this section, if you search and see you will indeed notice they are very different.

NaBH4 is a good substitute, check the thread.
 

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auch mit LiAH-Reduzierung
so with NaBH4 instead of Lialh4 in THF I could kopie the procedure from your video ?
 

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Hey guys, I have successfully completed this synthesis several times with very good results. Unfortunately, the smell of isopropanol disturbs. What about ethyl acetate? Is it possible to replace iso with ethyl acetate? Thank you in advance dear community.
 

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yes, this synthesis works perfectly with ethyl acetate, just use less acetic acid than with isopropanol, otherwise everything will be fine.
 

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Do you know a procedure to synthesis Amphetamine from reduction with LiAlH4 in THF to describe quickly and short ?
 

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here you go, please don't burn your house down
shulgin also describes this a few tens of times in pikhal
 

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Not exactly, look for NaBH4 procedure in this subforum.First one's free the second one you find yourself :p
 

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Could you share this supplier or send me in private message?
 

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Cam somebody in great detail describe to me the exact moment I should pour off the mercuric solution from the aluminum when preparing an aluminum amalgam? It is unclear if there needs to be a heavy gray thick precipitate or not.
 
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