Cannabidiol (CBD) Isomerization to Psychoactive Cannabinoids

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I tried smoking the light solids on the bottom and it just turned into a white crust kinda like when you smoke DMT so I assume the solid light stuff is garbage
 

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Most likely it is sodium salts. You can show the photo of the CBD, what is it quality? What hydrochloric acid use? If everything is clean and high-quality, most likely the temperature is high and stirring may not be enough.
 

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Attached are my reagents, 2nd photo is the garbage that was on the bottom and the last photo is my product drying. I used citric acid and boiled it for 8 hours with the reflux running.
 

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What state of CBD are you using, your product seems very impure
 

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It's the most unrefined CBD oil you can buy it's Full-Spectrum Alcohol-Extracted CBD Crude Oil from hemp Depot wholesale
 

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I recommend that you use pure CBD isolate powder, as full-spectrum extracted CBD is often dark in color and contains many lipids, which can interfere with isomerization reactions and make it difficult to separate products
 

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Usually pure CBD powder lends itself to isomerization, I don’t know how pure the process goes with oil
 

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I think anyone who is making it for sales should use isolate, and DISTILL END PRODUCT AT LEAST ONE TIME
 

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does this look like a good product to use?
 

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Can you ask them what purity it is?
Usually, if it's isolate, it should be good to go, but the fact it also says "broad spectrum" confuses me a bit.
 

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Broad spectrum means all cannabinoids, not isolated like CBD isolate
 

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CBD isolate is the best substrate
 

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Hey OP!
I currently hold only ethanol mixed with IPA (75%, 7%), will I have to get a hold of the ethanol or use vodka or something? To my own knowledge, I cannot see any way that the IPA would fuck anything up, however I thought I might ask instead of fucking around to find out.
 

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You can use this mixture, after the reaction make sure you don't have isopropyl alcohol in your product
 

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Need some assistance and a bit help regarding the following:

1. Wether the reagents that I had used, could have any negative implications on the product and if so, how to fix it during the isomerzation of CBD to psycho active cannabinoids.

2. The by-product that I've made

3. Calculation of potency of end product.



1) First i soaked about 5g CBD skunk (8%CBD) with 100ml Propan-2-ol (isopropanol)
inside a glass container with a lid and put on freeze in the freezer for a couple hours also I stirred the glass container a couple of times to extract the tricomes. After freezing the container, I then poured the 5g of CBD flower mixed with Propan-2-ol into another glass container (so that no troubles will occour in the 70°c water bath). Before adding the glass container into the bath, I put in about 100ml Acetic Acid (32% vol).
During the water bath, I added another lid upon the lid of the glass container. I used the second layer for placing ice cubes as to compress and chill the vapours untill they fell to the mix again. After the reflux session I was to separate the acid from the propanol, I just could not get ahold of alkaline water, so I just used regularitet water saturated with natron as for making the water more basal, making the pH rise.

2) The solvents did a reaction, leaving a layer brown/redish colour on the top, and a pale laver pn the bottom. Assuming the acid had absorbed the natron, I separated the two layers. However when dried, the solution I separated turened into rocks and flakes with a gourgeos orange, light red color, but that is not oil... What is this and can would it be dangerous to put in a pill as an edible for example? I am quite sure, its left over natron, however I just wanted to hear the smartest forum on earth about it anyway to be sure and maybe learn a couple things.

3) I am quite experienced in concentrate manufacturing, however calculation of potency is a bit hard imo. Is there any math equation for this and is there any differences in regards to determination of the percentages of potency? And does the equation differ if for example the product is made from CBD isomerization?


Best regards, Otcavians lost legions.
 

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For isomerization, you need a pure CBD in the form of a powder
 

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I used flowers, it sure got me high. As if i just smoked 5 blunts in a row, but without feeling dizzy and feeling dry in my mouth. I feel giggly AF, mostly relaxed in a form of body high, yet not feeling heavy and still doing my work. I looked up THC delta 8 and 9, and my experience as of now is just as descibed on the web.

However next time, I will try using cbd powder (99%). But just saying, it worked fine for me using flower, I even infused my flower with it afterwards jajaja
 

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Good, your experience will be useful
 

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are their any places to buy a ptfe pump i made my own and it broke but the oils came out clear and tastes pure are their any links on here or does anyone know where to get one
 

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I have a question regarding the extraction of CBD.
How exactly do you extract it ?
 

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Extraction by alcohol is the simplest one
 

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both DCM and EtOAc are carcinogenic, any safe replacement ?

what do you mean by "NPS" ?
 
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