Methamphetamine synthesis from P2P via Aluminum amalgam

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Can Methanol replace ethanol as solvent?
 

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Yes, it's even better.
 

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But the risk of toxic gases increases.
 

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This writeup is a total mess. Following it as is will give you 10% yeld. Or may be less.

1. Aluminium amalgam must be prepared in advance, it is important step
2. Add your p2p, Methylamine to amalgam along with isopropanol
3. Keep reaction temp <30 degrees
4. With 40g of p2p and 40g aluminium FOIL you'll get 100% runaway :).
5. Add NaOH/KOH before filtering Al/Hg sludge, it makes filtering process easier and kills remaining Al
6. And so on...
 

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I did before on 200L drums, 100L drums are also fine, and did one pot reaction.

350-400 grams of mercury on 10L b (400 grams is really a lot aggressive), 15L methylamine 40% and then like 30L methanol.
The foil I am unsure, I had in the end made like 2/3 of a bucket full with scrathed/damaged foil (no balls) so it was that weight.

In the end it was to much foil.
Yield; 12L at PH 12.

Back then with methylamine, everyone knows there are better alternatives for that when working with, f.e., with Al/Hg
 
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When you say the Al amalgam can be made in situ does that mean one doesn’t have to wash & decant the HgCl from the aluminum before introducing the p2p + methylamine mixture? The HgCl can be left in the flask while reduction happens and will be extracted out later during product purification?
 

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I'm currently experimenting with al/hg and wanted to scale the synthesis. I asked myself the question of whether it is absolutely necessary to use a capacitor? I suspect it is needed to keep the methylamine and solvent (methanol) in reaction vessel. But would it be possible to compensate for methylamine loss with a new methylamine-methanol solution?
 

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Perhaps an excess of methylamine was used, not much, just to compensate
Add an amount of water
Keep the temperature no more than 60 degrees and you will be fine
 

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Thanks Perfect will try
 

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Hello,is it possible to replace methylamine with something other ?thanks
 

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I have heard of success with nitromethane, but the yields are lower.
 
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