Need help please making 4mmc, just some guidance

[white7proton]

I believe I need to add the dcm and bicarb to help extract as much 4mmc as possible, then I will mix 55ml and 500ml of acetone together and slowly add this to the mixture.

How slowly or how much at a time do I need to add to prevent burning the mixture?

 

[G.Patton]

You can use DCM to extract water layer to collect all 4-mmc residues. I have no idea where did you take this recipe with bicarbonate soda.

You have to combine dcm layers and add acetone/hcl mixture there

 

[white7proton]

Once I have added the acid to the acetone I will then add this to the mixture, how long before the chemical process is completed?

I add the salt NACI before adding the acid and acetone.

How do I get the 4mmc from this mixture? I don't have a vacuum machine to extract the moisture and leaving me with the powder, is there another way to do this? Can I not just add acetone straight to this instead of making powder? So I can crystalize quicker skipping this step?

Once I have perfected this 100g 2b4m recipe and method I will tryand do 1000g 2b4m, but I will need to do it in a way where I use normal equipment and normal containers not laboratory equipment.

 

[G.Patton]

Depends on reaction volume, until precipitation is stopped. You have to reach 5.5-6.5 pH.
What is a reason? There is no sense.
filter 4-mmc crystals via filter paper in case you don't have suction filtration tool. Then, air dry them. That's all.

 

[white7proton]

Added 200ml dcm 5% bicarb soda and 1g NACI

 

[G.Patton]

Why did you do this? What is a purose of this step, can you tell me please?

 

[white7proton]

That's what it looks like after acetone and acid being added...

 

[G.Patton]

Please, stop flood here. Write in one message or in direct message me.

 

[G.Patton]

Looks that you've overoxydize your 4-mmc. What pH do u have?

 

[hexen]

My. 4-mmc HCl

 

[white7proton]

Mine has gone all dark instead of creamy. Can you let me know your opinion please.

 

[white7proton]

I try to check but it's not working properly this kit

 

[white7proton]

I following the recipe 100% so I'm a bit confused

 

[hexen]

Put freebase go frezer on night u see powder get out and later use filter and take out powder form liquid

 

[hexen]

My ph 6

 

[hexen]

U need made it

 

[white7proton]

Is freebase the bottom layer? I have attached photo

 

[hexen]

This all is freebase now u need put on frezer by night

 

[white7proton]

I need to get different PH testing kit

 

[hexen]

Yes

 

[white7proton]

Okay I will put all of the mixture from the bottle into a container then I will put in freezer. I will leave in freezer for 12 hours? Or more?

Then I will get filter and get rid of the liquid which will leave me with powder.

 

[hexen]

Yes12h

 

[white7proton]

Can you send me your recipe and method please so I can learn more please.

 

[hexen]

No sorry u have video on forum how to made

 

[white7proton]

Hopefully tomorrow when I put the mixture through the filter I get powder. If I don't get any powder then I don't know what I am doing wrong.

 

[white7proton]

Stage 1

2b4m 100g
Dcn 500ml
Methyloamine 40% in water 200ml
3x water 200ml
Dcm 200ml with 5% soda
Later drop 1g NACI
Acid 55ml and 500ml acetone

1. Add 100g 2b4m and 500ml dcm put in large glass bottle (1.5l vodka bottle), shake until all dissolved (10 minutes)
2. Add Methyloamine 40% in water 200ml to bottle in 3 parts, shake after each part added. Seal glass bottle with lid, use electrical tape and wrap the lid tight and seal completely.
3. Shake bottle every 10 minutes for 30 seconds over the course of 2 hours.
4. Next take the top layer away and discard it (lighter in colour).
5. Then wash it 3 times with 200ml water, so 600ml total until the methyloamine smell goes. I may wash even more times. Discard the water after each wash.
6. Add 200ml dcm 5% bicarb soda and 1g NACI to the main mixture.
7. Now I will mix 500ml acetone with 55ml hydrochloric acid 35/36.6%, then I add this to the main mixture bit by bit.

My mixture is all dark after doing the above... what have I done wrong please?

 

[G.Patton]

There are several mistakes:
1. Why do you add 200 ml 5% bicarb into the reaction mixture
2. You had to dry your solution over Na2SO4
3. You added too much acid (I guess), cuz your product had too dark color.

I don't know where did you take this and don't uderstand why it is hard to open video synthesis tutorial for you. In the BB Forum several correct manuals.
I already answer above to your questions. Please, ask all your next question in one message, no more. You overflooded this comment section and made it not readable for other users and for me.