A quick way to synthesize crack cocaine is the alkalization of cocaine salt form (cocaine hydrochloride) by adding alkali to cocaine hydrochloride water solution. As the result of this reaction, cocaine free base (crack) is formed, which isn't soluble in water and can be isolated from the solution.
he doesnt know shiiit ... the precision the right ratios and right procedures with all those details from a to z not the street garbage way..great work Nova he is a real chemistry artist
I read a few notable things in the captions, that I haven't heard before. Why would the ph be 8 if the pKa is 8.6? Isn't it generally accepted that in order to recover 99% of a chemical in its acid or Base form, you need to go to ph 10.6 for crack and 6.6 for the hcl? 2 points higher/lower than the pKa?
When I think a out making crack, and ive made a lot of it, I think of a deprotonization or neutralization. Hence the math is something like
1 mole of hcl is 36 grams (39? ) doesn't matter. 1 mole of sodium bicarbonate neutralizes 1 mole of hcl a mole of NaHCO³ is 84g
303g (1 mol of cocaine base) plus 36g of hcl=1 mole of cocaine hcl
1 mole of cocaine hydrochloride 339g is neutralized by 1 mole of NaHCO³, 84g
84÷339= 0.247787
25% 250mg/g, I didn't think that sounded right, but it is. 150mg would be stoichometric with a gram of 60% cocaine and 250mg with 100% cocaine.
I guess that just leaves me wondering why ph8 is ideal
he doesnt know shiiit ... the precision the right ratios and right procedures with all those details from a to z not the street garbage way..great work Nova he is a real chemistry artist
I once wished to argue that conjugating acids/bases wasn't chemistry because the base chemical didn't change, but I found out that everyone but me apparently thinks it is chemistry
Didn't I already give you that? It's not magic or a secret. UTFSE and search for "rhodium chemistry archives " Erowid has it, vespiary, drugs-forum, a couple of other places.
If you don't need this, it doesn't mean that other people don't need such information.
The vast majority people here don't produce drugs or carry out complicated syntheses and looking for simple way to get high. Crack cocaine is a popular option.
I'm always interested in other people's methods. What pseudoscience they grasped and what they didn't. Occasionally I'll come across a real gem, something with some science backing it
I read a few notable things in the captions, that I haven't heard before. Why would the ph be 8 if the pKa is 8.6? Isn't it generally accepted that in order to recover 99% of a chemical in its acid or Base form, you need to go to ph 10.6 for crack and 6.6 for the hcl? 2 points higher/lower than the pKa?
When I think a out making crack, and ive made a lot of it, I think of a deprotonization or neutralization. Hence the math is something like
1 mole of hcl is 36 grams (39? ) doesn't matter. 1 mole of sodium bicarbonate neutralizes 1 mole of hcl a mole of NaHCO³ is 84g
303g (1 mol of cocaine base) plus 36g of hcl=1 mole of cocaine hcl
1 mole of cocaine hydrochloride 339g is neutralized by 1 mole of NaHCO³, 84g
84÷339= 0.247787
25% 250mg/g, I didn't think that sounded right, but it is. 150mg would be stoichometric with a gram of 60% cocaine and 250mg with 100% cocaine.
I guess that just leaves me wondering why ph8 is ideal
In case of an NaHCO3 excess, you'll get it as a precipitate pollution in final product. Crack cocaine with NaHCO3. It's worth to avoid overalkalization in this procedure.
I read a few notable things in the captions, that I haven't heard before. Why would the ph be 8 if the pKa is 8.6? Isn't it generally accepted that in order to recover 99% of a chemical in its acid or Base form, you need to go to ph 10.6 for crack and 6.6 for the hcl? 2 points higher/lower than the pKa?
When I think a out making crack, and ive made a lot of it, I think of a deprotonization or neutralization. Hence the math is something like
1 mole of hcl is 36 grams (39? ) doesn't matter. 1 mole of sodium bicarbonate neutralizes 1 mole of hcl a mole of NaHCO³ is 84g
303g (1 mol of cocaine base) plus 36g of hcl=1 mole of cocaine hcl
1 mole of cocaine hydrochloride 339g is neutralized by 1 mole of NaHCO³, 84g
84÷339= 0.247787
25% 250mg/g, I didn't think that sounded right, but it is. 150mg would be stoichometric with a gram of 60% cocaine and 250mg with 100% cocaine.
I guess that just leaves me wondering why ph8 is ideal
Your observations are quite correct. 25% NaHCO3 showed pH8. A larger NaHCO3 amount eventually crystallized in excess in the washed-off water and did not shift the pH of the solution above 8. Perhaps the method of making crack using ammonia instead of soda can make a solution's pH up to 10.6. In general, millions of people prepare crack for themselves using NaHCO3 and get a 1:1 yield. Euphoria, stimulation - everything that they wanted are obtained.
Your observations are quite correct. 25% NaHCO3 showed pH8. A larger NaHCO3 amount eventually crystallized in excess in the washed-off water and did not shift the pH of the solution above 8. Perhaps the method of making crack using ammonia instead of soda can make a solution's pH up to 10.6. In general, millions of people prepare crack for themselves using NaHCO3 and get a 1:1 yield. Euphoria, stimulation - everything that they wanted are obtained.
Yes but we both know the real truth, you can't take away 11% of the weight of a molecule and then magically recover it from the aether. Also benzoylecgonine , the first round ,metabolic product, reacts like cocaine but is not cns active. I've seen test results on Drugs-data.org of up to 50%. But 10-15% was more common than levamisole/dextramisole . Ever heard of cocaine carbonate? It's heavier than the hcl and it vaporizes in the 100°C range. Inknow, that's crazy talk, putting a bicarbonate in a dissociated aqueous mixture with all those cocaine1+ floating around🫢
Its the dumbest way of making crack you need to use more water to disolve the bicarbonate im shure whats left here is full of bicarbonate xd amonia crack is much easier i dont know why they dont show people how to get clean crack
Its the dumbest way of making crack you need to use more water to disolve the bicarbonate im shure whats left here is full of bicarbonate xd amonia crack is much easier i dont know why they dont show people how to get clean crack
Whay makes you say that? You need more water to keep the salt you. made dissolved so you don't have salt in your crack. It snaps and pops and turns black. Ammonia crack is not a thing there's crack and there's freebase cocaine. If you make crack with ammonia you are using the least useful parts of each method to have an abortion, sodium hydroxide, that's where it's at. It don7fizz but it doesn't have poison gas in it either. Sodium chloride and dihydrogen monoxide
Whay makes you say that? You need more water to keep the salt you. made dissolved so you don't have salt in your crack. It snaps and pops and turns black. Ammonia crack is not a thing there's crack and there's freebase cocaine. If you make crack with ammonia you are using the least useful parts of each method to have an abortion, sodium hydroxide, that's where it's at. It don7fizz but it doesn't have poison gas in it either. Sodium chloride and dihydrogen monoxide
Im saying that when making crack with bicarbonate, you need to wash well your crack from bicarbonate, with amonia i think as gas and more soluble in water is more easy yo clean out on small scale or both big scale
I read a few notable things in the captions, that I haven't heard before. Why would the ph be 8 if the pKa is 8.6? Isn't it generally accepted that in order to recover 99% of a chemical in its acid or Base form, you need to go to ph 10.6 for crack and 6.6 for the hcl? 2 points higher/lower than the pKa?
When I think a out making crack, and ive made a lot of it, I think of a deprotonization or neutralization. Hence the math is something like
1 mole of hcl is 36 grams (39? ) doesn't matter. 1 mole of sodium bicarbonate neutralizes 1 mole of hcl a mole of NaHCO³ is 84g
303g (1 mol of cocaine base) plus 36g of hcl=1 mole of cocaine hcl
1 mole of cocaine hydrochloride 339g is neutralized by 1 mole of NaHCO³, 84g
84÷339= 0.247787
25% 250mg/g, I didn't think that sounded right, but it is. 150mg would be stoichometric with a gram of 60% cocaine and 250mg with 100% cocaine.
I guess that just leaves me wondering why ph8 is ideal
Well that's not very nice. You should Critique my comment and point out the errors. That's right, Novator said I was exactly correct. Which, of course, happens a lot because I check references. Everyday I get multiple messages from people wanting to know if I know this or what's the ratio of that, they looked everywhere and couldn't find it. There you go buddy, 2 minutes. My USE THE FUCKING SEARCH ENGINE is about to reach the stratusphere. I don't know shit, but you made yourself a fan. Ill critique every comment you make. I'm going to fact check every single thing you say. We're going to be best friends,
Well that's not very nice. You should Critique my comment and point out the errors. That's right, Novator said I was exactly correct. Which, of course, happens a lot because I check references. Everyday I get multiple messages from people wanting to know if I know this or what's the ratio of that, they looked everywhere and couldn't find it. There you go buddy, 2 minutes. My USE THE FUCKING SEARCH ENGINE is about to reach the stratusphere. I don't know shit, but you made yourself a fan. Ill critique every comment you make. I'm going to fact check every single thing you say. We're going to be best friends,
i am not surprised, that the elephant in the room doesnt get adressed....(but being wise-asses is ...) cocaine-freebase-precipitate shouldnt be pyrolyzed, instead evaporated vrom below the carrier device....
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I've had a dozen discussions about vaping various things and I agree that you can vape meth. Meth has a melting point near pg's boiling point 167° C meth melting point, 187°c, PG boiling point. That's important.
Did wou know, that when something reaches it's boiling point, it can't really get any hotter. It just boils harder and eventually it just jump out of the vessel. It won't get any hotter ( yes I know about super heating in a microwave that 1° is not something to think about) what's that mean?
When you heat up propylene glycol, it gets to 187° and stops, 20° hotter than the melting point of meth, the perfect temperature to vaporize it. You can just lay on the fla,e and it won't burn your shit until all of the pg is gone.
It's not the same with crack, it's melting point is 98°C, 100° less than pg's boiling point. It could keep you from burning your crack up, but it's at the expense of a big hit. I smoke 60-70 mg in a hit. No way you can vape anything near that much in one hit of a vape, so you'll never get a bellringer and it'll be hard to even get high, considering in pg I doubt you could vape 20mg in a hit
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THINK ABOUT WHAT I TRY TO CONVEY , BY CITING THIS ....
i would recommend you check out the MP for D-Meth-HCL first...
in case, your given data is obtained by your observations....
THEN:
I guess your ICE was spiced by a spoonfull of MethylSulfonylMethane...
how do i know ? you may ask....
because i cooked up a nice bowl of MSM with D-Meth (which i brought over to free drug checking in my neutral place of living, )
RESULT BY GC/MAS:
997 mg / Gram
enantiopure Methamphetamine - hydrochloride
which came by dreaming to me....i think
and SURPRISE i smashed some MSM in that Glasspipe...but before i determined BP of
the Conglomerated Mixture until your "vaping Temperature made Sense" ;-)
lastly check out what special Properties PG/VG especially combined has to offer (HINT: Nicotine Salts of E-Cigarettes)
If your hypothesis would be in the realm of reality.....THEN GOOD LUCK IF YOU , lets say, HAVE TO STRUGGLE WITH AZEOTROPES.....get ya dean-stark ready....and ya vigreux column....and then start to fantasize until your Math fetish is saturated...
dont be mad i enjoyed ya response, hope you have the humor in your RBF too.
i respect your obvious expertise level very much. to be serious,
just nerdy bitching of my Clandestine Ego....you couldn't know what wizardry i am capable of...
nice try to bitchslap my old whore-face , though
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got no "BELL-RINGER" but a hard Dick .after ingesting...but lets not argue over TASTE....
I'm not even sure what you are trying to say. Every reference I've seen said 170°c @760mm/hg. I'm 1000 ft above sea level, and that works out to 168°C. Msm melts at 109°c, sp a 25% cut melts at 153°C if it's msm for the cut. 156.2°C represents a 20% cut. The Hive was still up when I started playing with chemistry. Your post, it has no facts or metrics. No ratios, no citations. Eleusius wouldn't be impressed.
Welcome to the site, amt the bottom of the home page in the margin, are the rules. Read them love them follow them. A good chemist is an accurate chemist.
Please, I beg of you, Use The Fucking Search Engine. After that we can discuss what is true and what is speculation.
Well that's not very nice. You should Critique my comment and point out the errors. That's right, Novator said I was exactly correct. Which, of course, happens a lot because I check references. Everyday I get multiple messages from people wanting to know if I know this or what's the ratio of that, they looked everywhere and couldn't find it. There you go buddy, 2 minutes. My USE THE FUCKING SEARCH ENGINE is about to reach the stratusphere. I don't know shit, but you made yourself a fan. Ill critique every comment you make. I'm going to fact check every single thing you say. We're going to be best friends,