Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)
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Woww congratz man
Please tell me hows goes everything, amounts used, reaction time, lab/house gears used
Please tell me hows goes everything, amounts used, reaction time, lab/house gears used
You have everything in the main post, just follow the steps. I had several failures, when I made the mixture in the flask with the aluminum and the 1-phenyl-2-nitropropene and others. The reaction was quite violent, it was my first experience with chemistry and the truth is that it scared me a bit. The substance remains very solid when I try to pass it through the strainer. I have weighed it and got a 55% yield on the main substance.
But I will leave it tonight to air and tomorrow I will weigh it again to see if the performance has been maintained before.
How much could production be scaled with this method without hurting performance by 60%-70%?
What equipment would be needed? I would like to increase production to a minimum of 50g per cooking.
Do all components scale the same?
What equipment would be needed? I would like to increase production to a minimum of 50g per cooking.
Do all components scale the same?
What do you think of my first product? It is the first time that I work with chemistry and the truth is that in smell/appearance I am happy
The product looks pretty clean, accept my congratulations. What challenges have you experienced? Maybe there are any questions?
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Challenge as such was to take the first step. Then everything goes fine. Although the reaction when you pour the contents into the aluminum amalgram I have to admit it scares me a bit.
I will continue doing a couple more syntheses with these proportions and quantities to practice.
I asked a couple of questions a little above my post.
How much could production be scaled with this method without hurting performance by 60%-70%?
What equipment would be needed? I would like to increase production to a minimum of 50g per cooking.
Do all components scale the same?
Yes, congrats with synthesis!
enlarge reaction flask and control temperature properly
as @William Dampier said before
enlarge reaction flask and control temperature properly
as @William Dampier said before
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I don't have much experience but a 20L flask and the amounts to use x10. Won't it be a bit tricky to handle manually?
What would it take? A rotary evaporator in an ice water bath?
Ice water bath and top stirrer. I showed the example, you can carry out 100g at first and enlarge your synthesis step-by-step to avoid spoiling reagents.
I have been thinking what the right amount of Mercury nitrate is for amalgamation. I haven`t got Mercury nitrate or chloride so I have to use the nitric acid method, however the amount given in the video for Mercury nitrate synthesis is 5ml, which is about 25% of the Thermometer`s mercury content.
In the video which uses already made dry Mercury nitrate 0.1g Mercury Nitrate is given. This corresponds to roughly 62mg mercury. In the Mercury Nitrate/Thermometer video it is suggested that we use 1/4 of the total amount (5ml out of 20ml), which is at least 250mg Mercury if the thermometer contains 1gr. (normally mercury content is given between 0.6 and 3g). This is quite a substantial difference (X4).
In the video which uses already made dry Mercury nitrate 0.1g Mercury Nitrate is given. This corresponds to roughly 62mg mercury. In the Mercury Nitrate/Thermometer video it is suggested that we use 1/4 of the total amount (5ml out of 20ml), which is at least 250mg Mercury if the thermometer contains 1gr. (normally mercury content is given between 0.6 and 3g). This is quite a substantial difference (X4).
Another question. Can you `overdo` amalgamation e.g. by using too much Mercury nitrate? I have tried to make amalgam, but it somehow disintegrated, the whole thing happened very fast well under 15minutes and most of my foil became `sludge`. Any tips on how to spot the right time and how to make the reaction slower? Sorry if this is something very obvious, but I still managed to get it wrong, even if I was watching for signs like bubbles etc.
Hi Patton, in a way yes, as you actually gave a proportion 1300:1 for Al:Hg, which roughly corresponds to the 0.1g of pure Hg(NO3)2 given in the video. On the other hand I still don`t know why fresh Mercury nitrate is given in a different proportion, or (another possibility) where my calculation goes wrong. That thread is very useful thank you for thinking of it.