Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)

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hello.i have a problem with the synthesis.everything goes well until the moment of adding alkali.the mixture thickens and the layers cannot be separated.what should i do
 

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Is your P2NP clean? did you keep RM between 50-55 degrees? Did you add enough IPA? Is ph of the final mess 11?
 

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the quality of the reagent is good. the temperature may have been a bit off. I added 20 ml more alcohol
 

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Have you added alkali solid or alkali aq solution?
 

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my alkalis are hard. I dissolved 40g in 120ml of water
 

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tomorrow I will try again and upload pictures of the chemicals and reactions. wouldn't it be better to use a thick foil. that way it won't turn out to be a gray mess
 

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for me, for 10gr P2NP the alkali solution is 50gr NAoH + 150ml H2O
 

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I made a third attempt. this time everything worked out and I got a pretty good product. the problem was alkalizing. I added a little
 

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You have to use aq solution
good luck
 

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experience 3 4 5 everything is now great. every time the product is white with a very slight smell of vinegar. average yield per batch 8g per 10g of nitropropene
 

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8.1g
 

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Hello
I have some questions

can we replace the 0,3g mercury (II) nitrate by the cloride (II) mercury?
I'm looking for someone who can provide me with 95/99% sulfuric acid
I know this is not the right topic but I could not find anywhere to make my request. I apologize
thank
 

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Yes, the Nitrate can be replaced with Chloride
 

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I have a question. Are these crystals that appear in the bottom gray layer of the base solution P2NP that has not reacted? It is curious, they have appeared just the time I have had the active reaction for about two hours, longer than usual. (I usually allow half an hour to pass before proceeding with the basification)
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The resulting yield has been very high (75%, more or less), and I think the final appearance is quite satisfactory.
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hello friend... yes, as our friend Gpatton says, those crystals are salts, in this case they are sodium salts that are formed in the mud layer when it has been at high temperatures and then there has been a rapid drop in temperature, you see, it is normal see them when you meet those conditions that you explain. For the rest the result looks good... health and joy brother!.
 

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Thanks for your answer! Lately I have focus my TEK taking care of the temperature, trying to never reach 60-65ºC. And it has been a game changer. The yields and the quality has improved significantly.
 

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Is it advisable to use fine aluminum so that it reacts faster and better?
 

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better to use clean thin foil
 

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Reynolds aluminum foil. Cut them into 1x1?
 

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Are these crystals formed after P2NP reduction on Al/Hg? Probably it is complex salt of Al
 
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