Question Looking for a vendor Help me with my first steps!

[1019er]

I'm a noob and want to get into synthesis and production .

After spending here some time reading, my first 3 big question turned up.

1. How to find a supply who ships small scale of different chemicals to Austria?

2. What are the best (easiest) substances to start with, after extracting dmt.
It seems beside the chemicals 4mmc is a good start. Or am I wrong?

3. Can you give me some tips on what supplies I will need to setup a small scale lab to produce?
Of course some magnetic stirrer with heating plate, fume hut, different flasks etc.

Thx in advance!

 

[1019er]

Thx for your reply!

So you think the best way to get all the base substances is to produce or buy them on my own one by one?
Which seems pretty time and money consuming and will take a long time, just by reading threw the forum how to produce the basic ingredients for mephedron.

So isn't there anyone who can provide me with a small quantity of the basic substance to produce 4mmc?

If I could get hands on ephedrin, crystal would be even easier to produce.

So maybe there is someone ot there who wants to build something together and share costs and information, pls get in contact with me!

 

[dr.zee]

is u made your self and u made 4mmc
meth is 300€/kg

 

[BennyBlanco]

So you are saying all a man need to make a KG of meth is 300€?

 

[HerrHaber]

Surprisingly enough the production cost can even go lower but only if you are chemical industry.

 

[Eve5586]

You can find the videos that show you how to make 4mmc. And learn that step by step.
I do not know how to make. I just provide some raw materials. Good luck!

 

[alpino]

in my opinion 4mmc 2b4mp DCM route is the simplest . I use the pot and hose from the shower (I set the water boiler 36*) and I have constant temperature.
That's unless you have hot plate magneticting stirrer

 

[Mona857]

Hi friend, can I know the price you get for 2B4M?

 

[alpino]

160$ / kg

 

[alpino]

I like Sonic's recipe, I get 4mmc very good all the time, acidification etc.

 

[antrax]

What solvent do you use for crystallization/recrystallization and do you obtain transparent crystals?

 

[alpino]

IPA and Demi Wather 60% / 40%

 

[alpino]

not so clear , litle bit opaque color (but clean)

 

[antrax]

I use deionized water to crystallize/recrystallize the bk-MDMA

 

[antrax]

I get bk-MDMA powder (white that has a shine) as it should be according to Wikipedia, but when I crystallize/recrystallize it I get impure brown or orange crystals, and I need to get them transparent.

 

[alpino]

I don't really know anything about MDMA, it's not to my taste, I think that's the reason
but ask Wiliam D, I know he knows a lot

 

[antrax]

it´s not MDMA, it´s methylone

 

[alpino]

M1 ok , similar i think , i realy can t help you in your situation (I don't have much experience only in what I'm passionate about)

 

[antrax]

you sell something?

 

[alpino]

check market , cannabinoids section

 

[antrax]

Are you from Spain?
I don't understand how you offer shipping with UPS or other private shipping companies (I say this because they have real-time tracking and you can easily be discovered unless you use a mule which would also be discovered) if you are from Spain it is best that you use the service of emails (without signature) since it is an anonymous service, which has no tracking or sender

 

[alpino]

and how i put 2kg of noids in a letter ?
p.s. - we dont have laws for noids

 

[alpino]

without tracking we dont offer reship

 

[antrax]

i knew you´re from spain

 

[alpino]

how ? because i write in the shipping section 8 days around Spain ?

 

[antrax]

nah, the way u speak english, maybe i´m wrong, saludos amigo