P2P synthesis from BMK glycidate ethers

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Hello, can you ask more clearly please? Do you want to convert PMK glycidate to MDP2P and than to MDMA? There is method on our forum how to get MDP2P. MDP2P -> MDMA. Look around Amphetamines forum section.
Synthesis of MDMA from piperonylmethylketone (PMK) with formamide and LAH
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Hello, you can advice our forum topics with better explanation as well. I would be very appreciated. There is method with pictures Complete MDMA synthesis from sassafras oil. There are photos of stages from MDP2P to MDMA and detailed explanation.
 

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Sir, I want to ask, how do we test that the reagents we make are p2p correct.
 

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First of all, you can cheek general appearance and than measure boiling point.
 

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Is the starting material [cas 41232-97-7] or [cas 80532-66-7]?
 

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Hello, you can use both of them as precursor.
 

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Can anyone advice on which precursor is best to buy I mean safest to ship to Europe? Is any of the BMK powders legal - where can this be checked? I`m a bit confused as there are quite a few versions available.
 

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P2NP is legal
P2P is restricted
BMK Glycidate 5449 is still quite new and as far as I know not restricted, altho it is common knowledge what glycidates are used for, especially bmk glycidates.

My guess would be that P2NP is the safest bet
 

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1-Phenyl-2-nitropropene, or simply phenyl-2-nitropropene, or P2NP, as it is commonly ... amphetamine class, and are listed as drug precursors in many countries

Bmk salt cas 5449-12-7 is still verry new in de scene it is worldwide allowd and till today not listed in no country.

also prices off P2NP go with the wind I mean not stable prices . the bmk salt is sent from europe with secure shipping line
it cost something like 100€ / kg
 

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P2NP is not restricted so far in most of the countries.
 

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I copy paste from pedia
 

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Yeah the Wikipedia article is actually a little wrong. There are much more usecases for P2NP and it's not restricted
 

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SWIM started with [cas 5449-12-7] after 4h of heating got aqueous layer on top and oily bottom... what did wrong? too much acid?
 

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further attempts with cas 5449-12-7 and step 1 of described method gave proper and stable results!
 

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Please post some pictures, there should be no problem i think
 

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as far SWIM understands the P2P oily layer should float after reflux and heating? (temperature was constant 90°C. PH1.)
 

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You have some pictures?
 

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Phenylacetone (P2P) has Density: 1.0057 g/cm3; Hence - your layer heavier than water. It means that it have to be on a bottom. Vice versa, if your water layer is heavier by reason of dissolved salts, p2p layer will be on a top. What is a problem to check boiling point?
 

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This is a very interesting question.
If we cook BMK salts, then the top layer is the p2p
if we now pour this top layer into a measuring cup, and we add warm water. Then the water is the top layer.
 
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