1-Phenyl-2-nitropropene (P2NP) Video Synthesis From Benzaldehyde and Nitroethane. Henry Reaction.

woohoo

Don't buy from me
New Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2022
Messages
56
Reaction score
22
Points
8
Look for pihkal and rhodium chemistry archive for more info on henry reaction catalyst.
Simple acetamide works too.
 

ASheSChem

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
Apr 10, 2022
Messages
297
Reaction score
161
Points
43
can we use 80% acid acetic or only glacial ?
 

WillD

Expert
Joined
Jul 19, 2021
Messages
727
Reaction score
1,017
Points
93
When using aqueous acetic acid, you will most likely have to use some alcohol all at once to dissolve the water, benzaldehyde, and nitroethane together.
 

ASheSChem

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
Apr 10, 2022
Messages
297
Reaction score
161
Points
43
Ok, Thanks !
 

ASheSChem

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
Apr 10, 2022
Messages
297
Reaction score
161
Points
43

like 100 ml benzaldehyde, 100 ml nitroethane, 20 ml acetic acid 80%, 5ml isopropanol and 10ml (or 20ml?) cyclohexilamine in 1 L flask and reflux ?
 
Last edited:

WillD

Expert
Joined
Jul 19, 2021
Messages
727
Reaction score
1,017
Points
93
Mix everything and add isopropanol until the mixture becomes homogeneous. After add a little more for boils and start the reaction.
 

ASheSChem

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
Apr 10, 2022
Messages
297
Reaction score
161
Points
43
Thank you very much I will also try this technique, we will see if I have a bigger harvest
 

ASheSChem

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
Apr 10, 2022
Messages
297
Reaction score
161
Points
43
i have tried ! and it's my actual yield record haha thanks !!

55gr benzaldehyde
40gr nitroethane
10ml acid acetic 80°
3ml isopropanol 99.9%
10ml cyclohexylamine

2:20 p.m. - start of mixing, hotplate at maximum
2:28 p.m. - seems homogeneous to me, with small oily reflections but if I don't see any bubbles
2:32 p.m. - I see bubbles forming in the liquid
2:33 p.m. - I lower the temperature (as I usually do) and turn on the mixer, strong for a few minutes then reduce it a little
6:00 p.m. - I stop and let it cool
7:00 p.m. - add 100ml of isopropanol, mix well (magnetic) and freeze.

09:00 a.m. - I start to filter by gravity the frozen product by mixing regularly
12:00 p.m. - transfer to a pyrex dish for the end of drying (in an incubator)
8:30 p.m. - weighed and transferred to the fridge, 67.7gr. - (71.11%)

ZZdxegJBkW
MCAIjwp92x
DE4o5psV0I
MlwHuK3PpI
 

flyhigh

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
Jul 2, 2023
Messages
17
Reaction score
8
Points
3
with same quantities can you suggest what quantity of n-butlyamine to be used ? instead of cyclohexylamine ?
 

flyhigh

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
Jul 2, 2023
Messages
17
Reaction score
8
Points
3
is it 55grams benzaldehyde or 55ml ? coz density is 1.04gm/L and in the picture your flask size is 200ml , so im guessing it must be 55ml
please suggest
 

ASheSChem

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
Apr 10, 2022
Messages
297
Reaction score
161
Points
43
Second try with acid acetic :

55.4gr benzaldehyde
40.1gr nitroethane
11ml acid acetic 80°
5ml isopropanol 99.9%
10ml cyclohexylamine

same procedure, just waiting a little more little bubbles (a lot on my maggnetic stirrer) at the bigining

weighed and transferred to the fridge, 69.6gr. - (72.88%)
 

WillD

Expert
Joined
Jul 19, 2021
Messages
727
Reaction score
1,017
Points
93
Did you leave a filtrate in the freezer?
 

ASheSChem

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
Apr 10, 2022
Messages
297
Reaction score
161
Points
43
what do you mean, re-freeze the liquid filtered another time?
 

ASheSChem

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
Apr 10, 2022
Messages
297
Reaction score
161
Points
43

at first I threw everything away... now I try to refreeze for the experiment; and this gives new crystals... sometimes even very long

but I don't know if it's a good product, I separate the refreezing from the rest of the harvest

9hAuXdmp0o
 

HIGGS BOSSON

Expert
Joined
Jul 5, 2021
Messages
435
Reaction score
659
Points
93
The crystals look good. In the first crystallizations, there was little alcohol, so the sediment fell out densely.
 

yin-yang

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
May 18, 2022
Messages
58
Reaction score
29
Points
18
Can I use this for as a catalyst? N- is same as 1- right?

1-Butylamine
CAS no: 109-73-9

I know there are some isomers so wanna make sure this is the right one.
 

yin-yang

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
May 18, 2022
Messages
58
Reaction score
29
Points
18
Also, I heard you can recover N-Butylamine and re-use it again. How to do that exacly?
 

MadHatter

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
Dec 4, 2021
Messages
442
Solutions
1
Reaction score
410
Points
63
You just distill it out. Boiling point 77-79 C.
 

yin-yang

Don't buy from me
Resident
Joined
May 18, 2022
Messages
58
Reaction score
29
Points
18
quite close to isopropyl bp- 82.5. should i use fractional destination or regular can get job done ?
 
Top