Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)

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In the video synthesis of amphetamine, reagents are used:
  • 10 g 1-Phenyl-2-nitropropene (P2NP);
  • 100 ml Isopropyl alcohol (IPA);
  • 50 ml Glacial acetic acid (AcOH);
  • 50 g Sodium hydroxide (NaOH);
  • 12 g Aluminium (in the form of sliced household foil);
  • 0.1g Mercury (II) nitrate (Hg(NO3)2);
  • 2 ml Sulphuric acid (H2SO4);
  • 50 ml Acetone;
  • Distilled water;
Equipment and glassware:
  • Flat bottom flask 2 L;
  • Retort stand and clamp for securing apparatus (optional);
  • Reflux condenser;
  • Funnel;
  • Sieve filter (kitchen grade is ok);
  • Syringe or Pasteur pipette;
  • pH indicator papers;
  • Beakers (600 mL x2, 2 L, 1 L, 100 mL x2);
  • Vacuum source;
  • Laboratory scale (0.1-200 g is suitable);
  • Measuring cylinders 1000 mL and 100 mL;
  • Cold water bath;
  • Glass rod and spatula;
  • Separatory funnel 1 L (optional);
  • Laboratory grade thermometer;
  • Buchner flask and funnel;
  • Filter paper;

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Description of amphetamine synthesis video.
A solution of 1-phenyl-2-nitropropene 10 g in 100 ml of isopropyl alcohol and 50 ml of acetic acid is prepared before the synthesis start. Also, an aluminium foil 12 g is cut into small pieces with a paper shredder for an aluminium amalgam preparation. It can be cut with scissors or torn by hands (in gloves).

0:04-0:40 - An aqueous alkali solution of preparation. This solution was made in advance so that the solution has room temperature by the main reaction mixture alkalization time in this video. The alkalinization is carried out with a spontaneous heating. If a fresh hot aq alkali solution is used, then the temperature is risen higher and a reaction mass forced cooling will be required.

0:46-2:36 - Amalgam with mercury nitrate. Amalgamated aluminium will reduce
1-phenyl-2-nitropropene to amphetamine. A small amount of gas is evolved during the amalgamation reaction, a grey precipitate is formed. It is important not to miss the moment when the aluminium amalgam is ready. This moment can be determined by a grey precipitate formation and by an increased gas evolution. It happens in 10-15 minutes from reaction start.

The water is drained without a gauze removing, the amalgamated aluminium is washed with two portions of cold distilled water. It is worth to pay attention to a gas bubbles releasing. It is noticed that bubbles are smaller and liquid color is darker in a "correct" amalgam. If the reaction is violent, bubbles are large and the color is light, the amalgam is "incorrect". This is almost certainly due to a lack of mercury salt. Please note that mercury salts are poisonous.

2:37-4:28 - The most important part of the process is 1-phenyl-2-nitropropene reduction by aluminium amalgam. The reaction is exothermic and carried out with an abundant heat releasing. It is necessary to carefully control the temperature during the procedure. Reaction flask is cooled in an ice bath in case of overheating. It is allowed to add cold water into the flask. Sometimes the reaction isn't started, it is necessary to warm the reaction mass thoroughly and the reaction is started (with a properly prepared amalgam). Smells of a boiling alcohol and acetic acid are released during reaction.
Allihn reflux condenser is used for a vapors capturing. The efficiency of Allihn reflux condenser can be increased by a running cold water, which can be connected to it.

5:04 - The reaction flask can be rinsed with a small amount of alcohol and unredacted aluminium can be rinsed with it as well for collecting residues and increasing the yield.

5:13 - There should be little unreacted aluminium left. You can determine an amount of reacted 1-phenyl-2-nitropropene by the residues.

5:16-6:13 - Alkalinization. The reaction is conducted with a heat releasing. The remains of unredacted aluminium will additionally react with alkali and heat the mixture as well as create by-products.
A separation into visible layers occurs within 30 minutes after alkalinization. The
pH of the top layer should be 11-12.

6:18-7:23 -
Decantation. Collect the top layer with amphetamine base in alcohol. It can be dried by a small amount of anhydrous magnesium sulfate. The slag can be extracted with a non-polar solvent (ether, benzene, toluene), then a solvent is evaporated.

7:24-8:50 - Preparation of the sulphuric acid solution in acetone. This solution is necessary for smoother acidification. If concentrated sulphuric acid is used, local over-acidification of the product is happened. Hence, the yield is dropping.

8:51-10:53 - Product acidification and amphetamine sulfate obtaining. To the upper yellow layer, which was collected at the previous stage, a prepared solution of sulphuric acid is added dropwise. Flakes of salt are formed with each drop of acid solution. This stage is very important, it is necessary to carefully control pH to avoid over-acidification. Acidification is continued until
pH 5.5-6. The over-acidified product has pinkish color. The product will be spoiled in case of a total over-acidification.

10:55-11:38 - Amphetamine sulfate
filtration from solvents in a Buchner funnel under vacuum. The product can be additionally rinsed with cold acetone at this stage by pouring it through Buchner funnel with the amphetamine sulphate cake.

11:41-12:28 - Filtration using improvised tools. Any thick fabric can be used as a filter. The resulting product is dried in a warm dry place for several hours to remove residual solvents. It is recommended to store it in a vacuum package.

The yield is 60-70%.
 
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sorry im a noob here trying to undestand, what do you mean yeild is 60-70% ? is it 60% of 10g of p2np that is 6 grms or (12al+10p2p=22grm) 60% of 22 grms = 13.2 grams ?
 

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Just to make sure since Im super new to all of this, the first video(and the following description) is the recipe to make speed/pep/amphetamine, not "meth"amphetamine. Can anyone correct me on that?
 

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Yes, I don't think there is a way to go from P2NP to methamphetamine in 1 step.But after obtaining the desired oil from this reaction you can perform solvent extraction and whatnot to isolate it followed by another identical Al/Hg reaction this time forming the imine between amphetamine and formaldehyde that will be reduced to the target secondary amine.There exists also the option to make Phenylacetone from P2NP, there is video method posted, for this route methylamine and phenylacetone will form an intermediary that is then reduced with either Al/Hg, NaBH4 etc.
 

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Good to know, the second video is how to make "Alphamethylphenethylamine", so I was confused if the video description is actually how to make meth via Al/Hg. Thanks for the quick answer and sorry for the newbie question ^^
 

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Guys, can I ask, is this normal?
After alkalinization I have 3 layers. In previous attempts, I've only ever had 2 layers

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Top layer is the layer you want... bro...
 

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Hello I need help converting amphetamine freebase to sulfate. I am using 1 part of amphetamine base for 1.7 parts of methanol in weight, so 1kg of base and 1.7 kg of methanol. The thing is that I have 2 sulfuric acids, one is a drain cleaner 96% sulfuric acid and 4% of inhibitors, and the other is supposed to be 100% pure acid. For some reason when using the drain cleaner it creates a really violent exothermic reaction adding to the methanol/base mix, like if I was adding acid to water, heating the mix quick, while using the pure acid it doesn't create that reaction, can anyone help me with was going on? thanks
 

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Did you dilute your sulphuric acid in anhydrous acetone?
 

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no I didn't. The base is already diluted in solvent so I am not pouring acid direcly
 

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I think instead of HgNO3 we can also use HgCl2 and my question is would it works to get the mercury Salt from HgS with aqua regis but with more nitric acid?

3 HgS+8 HNO3+6 HCl
react to
3 HgCl2(s) + 3 H2SO4 +4H2O + 8 NO(g)

I know that 8 moles of NO is lot of Gas development ^^
 

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any water soluble mercury salt can be used
 

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Yes bros Sure but that wasn't exactly my question ^^
 

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How concentrated should the ammonia be? Or should it be anhydrous ammonia? How about the sulfuric acid as well? Its hard to understand these variables, any way to understand without asking?
 

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My mistake, I meant acetone. Does it have to be dry acetone or normal acetone would work as well. Are there any alternatives to acetone?
 
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What are the benefits of using acetone if it isn't required?
 

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Acetone or isopropyl alcohol acts as a solvent
You have an amphetamine base dissolved in isopropyl alcohol that you want to convert to sulfate or phosphate
Make a solution of concentrated sulfuric acid and dilute it with acetone or IpA
For precise control of pH, this solvent function gives you the ability to control pH5.5.
 
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