Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

If your precipitate is thick and the mass has turned an opaque light gray you are way past your point.If most of your aluminium sinks ay first a good indication is when most of it floats to the top.Also make sure youre using enough salt for the amount of Al, too little and amalgamation itself is too violent, turns white, bubbles like crazy etc.

 

[Jack]

If I add the reaction mixture and no reaction begins, I must heat it to start it yes?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

You mean adding salt to aluminium? It should be a reaction but very gentle, I head using 0.1 / 10-12g Al is best.After adding mercuric salt swil amd observe , no need to heat.
If you mean adding p2np sol over amalgam then most likely your amalgam is incorrect.

 

[andre010]

Hello again, I found a vendor for Mercury Nitrate, it is cas: 7783-34-8 Mercury (II) nitrate Monohydrate !

Is this the correct Mercury Nitrate ?

btw. many thanks for your work and your help here !

 

[andre010]

Found the answer myself, thank you anyway...

the recherche for my book is complete now ;-)

 

[Jack]

Can anybody tell me how important to the reaction proceeding is the presence of water in the reaction mixture?

 

[lemon]

Can aluminium foil with a thickness of 0,018mm be used? From a well-known chemical manufacturer

And regarding the acetic acid, I can get technical grade 80% and food grade 80%, which is the better option?

Thanks

 

[G.Patton]

It is necessary to produce hydrogen H2 gas. You can read about reaction in this topic.

You can. It's better to use food grade.

 

[waltjr5858]

On one of the amalgam videos on this site it say when the amalgam is ready hydrogen evolution stops... I am having a big issue on telling when the amalgam is ready. One person said when it all floats another when it's a rich gray.... there has to be a better way to tell. I have waited until gas evolution stops and it never does.. the aluminum just gets completely consumed. I have tried thin and thick foil and aluminum grains. I have tried cleaning with hydroxide prior also. I have gotten the reaction to work a couple times out of at least 50+.... I'm stubborn. Most of the time the p2np is definitely consumed but come out with very very weak effects... actually nothing really as a very light orange solution. The time it did work it came out a dark orange solution. It's absolutely an issue with the amalgam because I have tried so many times I am very familiar with each stage. I find when it reacts very abruptly when the p2np solution is poured in i know it will be a decent reaction. When I have to shake it a lot to get it started it doesn't really work at all.
Does anyone know ow what the symptoms of using to much or to little mercury are so I can try to figure out the issue. I am using the solution of mercury that is described on this site to make mercury ii nitrate but using it as a solution and not dehydrating it as a salt. It says take like 1.5 grams of mercury and 20mls of concentrated nitric acid and wait till the mercury dissolves. Then add 5mls to 12 grams of aluminum. So I'm guessing you would use let's say 2.5ml for 6 grams of foil? There's something escaping me and I can't figure it out help please....

 

[golab071]

It may not be the optimal solution, but it is possible to combine the reduction reaction with amalgamation in a single step

 

[lemon]

Is the condenser only needed for health reasons due to the vapor?

If I'm outside can I work without condenser? Wouldn't have some big losses?

 

[G.Patton]

With all my respect to beginners, you can open comment section and read. This question is already discussed here.

 

[the money]

welcome everybody
I want to share with you my experiences, I tried to cook amphetamine
, I failed in the first experiment
and I failed in the second experiment
, but I succeeded in the third experiment

My third experience was like this

I added 12 grams of aluminum in a 3 liter beaker and added to it 4 ml of mercury nitrate and one liter of distilled water and left it to react for ten minutes
, after which I removed the contaminated water,
then cleaned it with two parts of water
....
Next, I added a solution of isopropyl alcohol, acetic acid, and p2np,
and after that the temperature went up,
I cooled it down a bit and left it to react for about 30 minutes

.....
Then I dumped it into a container and added a sodium hydroxide solution to 11 ph

....
After that, amphetamine oil was extracted

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Then add acetone with sulfuric acid to drip amphetamine oil to pH 6

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8 grams of amphetamine were obtained

....

Special thanks to teacher
G.patton
for helping me

 

[InLikeFlynn]

What did you do different from the 1st and 2nd attempts to gave success on the 3rd attempt?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Nice, grats

 

[nkd23]

Hi
I have problems to get H2SO4 conc in Europe/AT

H2SO4 15% is the strongest I'm able to get
Is it possible to produce with 15% ?

 

[Gale]

Amalgamation problems,

My solvent temp is around 0c starting and when I add merc to aluminum it takes forever to start and I've ruined some product adding it to soon. Seems like it will take like 3 hours in this temp. Am i right? I lost my shit at the lab I was really upset waiting there so late after I finally sourced some ultra pure Ai I thought it would speed things up, it was getting dull, but I had to leave at that point and I was so upset.

My ai is like .06 I think it was cut like nails, not how I asked and wanted so I decided to take initiative and cut it with scissors I got blisters lol

 

[hjames]

Is it better thicker or thinner alu foil?
I can obtain 9,10,11,12 microns thickness

 

[the money]

I used regular kitchen aluminum foil that you can get from any store

 

[Jack]

Can the acetic acid be replaced with formic acid?

 

[G.Patton]

You can don't use acid at all. I told about in in this topic.

 

[hjames]

If I understood correctly in one video freebase is mixed with acetone 1:1 and used only Sulfuric acid, and in another video sulfuric acid is used diluted with acetone
What is better? What is an advantage if freebase is mixed 1:1 with acetone?

 

[G.Patton]

There is no difference.