[Help!] Turning Codeine Into Morphine Derivatives

[Panthera]

Hey, guys! I live in a place where most chemicals are basically unregulated. I can walk into a store and buy iodine granules, potassium iodide (KI), glacial acetic acid, sulfuric acid, hydrochloric acid, acetone, sodium metal or even mercury no questions asked no paperwork.

We also have Codeine Phosphate 80mg pills here for about $0.56. Plus Heroin freebase is pretty common around, easy to find, no Fentanyl and about 30%-50% pure.

So, I was wondering if anyone has ideas about what I can do with these Codeine Phosphate pills? Don’t get me wrong I’ve tried taking 2 x 80 mg Codeine pills with a 25mg Promethazine pill, and it was actually great.

My skin felt warm, I was flushed, and the whole experience was super smooth and prolong. But the thing is, I can’t really profit from that. Plus, I’m more of a benzo guy. I need something more potent and faster acting if I’m going to make it worth my time.

I’ve heard about the Pyridine method of converting Codeine into Morphine, but honestly, that sounds like a lot of effort when cheap Heroin freebase is available everywhere.

I was thinking about turning Codeine into Desomorphine or Methyldesorphine.

Methyldesorphine might have a longer duration because of the Methyl group, and I feel like it’s the easiest and most efficient option since it's more potent around 10 to 15 times than Morphine.

I know Desomorphine doesn’t last long, but if taken orally, it still gives you 3-4 hours, which is way better than useless Codeine pills. Maybe I could even mix some Desomorphine or Methyldesorphine with Heroin, like how some people mix Heroin with Hydromorphone.

Does anyone know the method to convert Codeine into Desomorphine or Methyldesorphine? Or maybe a simpler way to get Morphine from Codeine?

I’m open to any Morphine derivatives as long as the process is cheap, straightforward and high yeilding. If it’s too expensive or gives lower yields, there’s no point since Heroin is already available for cheap.

 

[Eleusius_hive_reboot]

it is very good adaptable from meth synthesis via I2/red P... but conversion of the codeine salt to the aqueous hydrochloride hydrate is necessary ! if one is skilled in lab-techniques and does a carefull workup as it is standard , then desoMorph is very ENJOYABLE....

AND VERY SAFE - FORGET THAT PROPAGANDISTIC KROKODILE SHIT what the media was trying to portrait on and on...!

 

[loadingST]

Its been even in drug stores in the times of ethylmorphine and etc, in fact i have tried to make some clean desomorphine via this route and in the end the resulting hcl salt afther evaporation and later put in desiciatior and it never get powder in my little experiment but yeah an enjoyable opiate even oral.

 

[Eleusius_hive_reboot]

However, did you transform the codeine into its hydrochloride salt prior to reacting with I2/red-P?

If not, then you have not truly synthesized desomorphine, unless you used an excess of iodine...

The salt of codeine, in the form of hydrochloride, is hygroscopic, meaning it can absorb moisture from the air.....

Desomorphine, unlike its hygroscopic counterpart, has a superior bioavailability due to its prodrug nature (metabolism in the liver).

I believe you enjoyed the codeine -hydrochloride hydrate. If you encounter similar issues with other compounds you prepare

consider using flash crystallization. Heat the HCl (with minimum EtOH/IPA) until it reaches its maximum point before mp, then quickly pour in a small amount of ice-cold, dry acetone.

Use a handheld fan or hair dryer to evaporate the acetone, fast which will help remove the water molecules trapped in the hydrate form of the salt.

Then, re-crystallize the compound in a small amount of isopropyl alcohol until you achieve a saturated solution. Allow it to slowly evap at room temperature
( agglomeration- crystals will form)

Repeat the acetone flash and combine the substance with a small quantity of caffeine. Keep it in a sealed container.

 

[Eleusius_hive_reboot]

Desomorphine is perhaps be obtainable via formamid reaction similar to the leuckart/wallach type in amph.chemistry
so is the rumors on the street claimed by some eastern people in europe....but i think that reduces another part of the codeine molecule....i made once hydromorphinol, thats also very enjoyable, it has potency x2 of morphine and is longer lasting than desomorph!

 

[Eleusius_hive_reboot]

btw you`could give a drop of hcl, in to the reaction (I2/red P)...this should be sufficient...i will try that if i get some codeine...

 

[loadingST]

Of course codeine was once purified by precipitationas freebaae then turned into hcl salt and even recrystalized it was experiment for me it was so clean all, cleaned caffeine prior with ethyl acetate etc, and with my tolerance codeine is absolute absurd to touch me even then. It was good for fix with legs, not something euphoric, i believe euphoric opiates are euphoric only via IV and its not my route. And you cant recrystlaize glue like compund or if so i woud lose maybe all, i washed well the freebase which actualy was OK.

 

[Eleusius_hive_reboot]

okay...then you have maybe heated the flask to much during reduction....or the ratios werent the right...but desomorphine is a good precipitating hcl salt...but there was maybe povidone k30 in the tablets...this sometimes leads to substances youre describing...it forms povidone-iodine complex.....

but if it worked...who cares

i use TLC for verification during and after such experiments...you should do learn this too, in case you havent learned already...its standard lab chemistry.