Potency (strength) of methamphetamine

[DirkDiggler]

Is it possible to increase the potency (strength) of methamphetamine?
I have heard that the potency or strength is stated in octane.
Does anyone have any idea about this?
Can the intensity of this product be made more pronounced and if so, how? Or is this a rumor?

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

Well the D (R)enantiomer is about 10x as strong of a stimulant the than the L(S) enamtiomer. Using various chiral compounds one is able to seperate the 2 and through this separation a person has greatly increased the potency ( by using only dextro meth) using ephedrine or psedoephedroine only produces one enantiomer so if you use those precursors the result is D- meth. The final way one could increase potency is by recrystallization, but that only improves it if it were dirty or adultorated

 

[pshcrmth]

perfect point !

 

[TheCook]

The octan rating of gasoline is measured in octane, so I think you have heared about a hoax.
Apart of this, @Frit Buchner descriped the advantages of the racemate cleavage, which is a suitable way to increace the potency of your stuff.

 

[kafka82]

I have an odd question - but is it possible to decrease the potency and how ?

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

It can certainly be adulterated and often times is, but I'm not going to tell 500 people who read this what sort of adulterants are undetectable when cocrystallized with meth. Therer are several that are invisable to the naked eye and there are several that are invisible and virtually undetecftable withough spectrometry and perhaps some that are just undetectable by any known means

 

[kafka82]

well maybe if you can share in private

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

I could, but the thing is, we advocate for selling the best drugs a person can get and charging a price that it consistant with the quality. People who want the cheap drugs are junkies and you don't want them in your backyard at 3 in the morning sneaking around and you don't want them at your house 3 times a day, and you don't want them out there on the street getting busted because the cops will tell them that the only way they can get out of it is to roll on the next guy up (you). and if you can count on 1 thing, its these people don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves and down you'll go. Try to cultivate some higher class associates by pricing it out of the junky price and quality level.

 

[kafka82]

I understand your concern but is more for personal use - I have better high on smoother products for some reason but quality is not always consistent as you say - so investigating way to re-crystallise to sometime make the product smoother . To me that doesnt necessarily mean less or bad quality which is however quite subjective. I am not looking to mass production of low level product to with low yield ....so is really personal research in making a custom brew

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

well, puifying meth is a piece of cake. There are 2 schemes, 1, you put with the meth, something it is immoscible in. Acetone is the popular choiced, the sol. of meth in quality aceton is 1g/100ml, but if you put the acetone in the freezer until it's below 0c, the solubility is more like 0.5g/100ml.. Using 5ml/g, crush it up, add the ice cold acetone, stir it for 2 minutes, let it settle, and decant or seperatory funnel or buchner funnel the acetone off and let it dry/blow a fan on it gently and thats your basic acetone wash, which works great for the most common adulterant, a sulphur compound. Also sugars and fats, acetone is affective on. The opposite also works. Disolve the meth in methanol or isopropyl, and filter it in the buchner funnel and the liquid contains the meth and hopefully some things that didn't dissolve in the alcohol will be filtered out, Then you can concentrate the solvent and leave it to crystallize

 

[kafka82]

actually are there any video detailing the simple procedure ? How do I make sure acetone won't absorb moisture - ? I think they sell a type which is supposed to be moisture free... I have seen a video here doing a re crystallisation/wash using a condenser and 3 ways beaker and vacuum pump - that seems super pro!

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

I'm not sure if theres a video here or not, but it's chm 101, the irst type procedures one would learn. You an buy acs or reafgent grade acetone or you can dry it with molecular sieve or magnesium sulfate dehydrate( epsom salt)

 

[pshcrmth]

Btw. i heard from one old tweaker about quick trick with butane gasvas solveng which evaporate in no time. Anyone can say something about it?

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

well, butane cedrtainly does evasporate fast and I'm guessing the hcl wouldn't disolve in it, so Those things are true. On the other hand butane is pretty stinky. Iff you do a residue test and get nothing (sprat the butane into a glass and let it evaporate and see if there is any residue) then move to stage 2 testing and see if it dissolves meth. I guess ytoud have to come up with a thing like one does BHO with, so that you was the meth under some pressure and if anything dissolves, it's expelled with the butane. Because it evaporates like 1ml/s if it has 1 squae inch of exposure. Now I'm thinking about it I wonder.....I guess it maqkes since to spray it into a test tube withb a lid that screws on.