Synthesis of Methamphetamine from P2P and NaBH4 Reduction

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Can this synthesis be done in larger scale, like 1-2 kilo
 

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Yes easily
 
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I am a chemistry enthusiast from the East. Because I did not receive good education, now I want to learn chemistry. Please teach me, please
 

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If your from the East, go work for "The Company" in the triangle they can teach you far better then most here.
 

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I don’t have the skills, what should I do? Be a cannon fodder?
 

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Can we please have the secret to big nice shards of meth crystals. Tried almost all the recrystalization on the forum but non of them give big crystals.
 

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You need to separate the isomers. The D and L isomers form large rocks on their own, but not together.
 
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Thank you so much. After separation what method you use to make transparent glass from the different insomers
 

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18.1 – 20 ml of 35-40% aqueous methylamine

in this in h2o or MeOH?
 

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My base was dissolved in ethanol
After pumping hydrogen chloride gas, this is the result. I am fine with this color
HZOQcElsJ4
 

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It seems to be over-acidified and has colloidal impurities.
 

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Good
The excess acid evaporates as the ethanol evaporates. I can wash it to remove some impurities
 

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norm result!
evaporate it for crystallization. wash using Et2O or ethylacetate or petroleum ether (may be with small portion of acetone) on the vacuum filter.
recrystallize (optional) from alcohol or in other pure solvents
 

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This calls for methylamine 40% while another post in forum uses aq 10%. Is one better than the other ?
 
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It doesn't matter how much it is. The important thing is that the content of the reaction substance in it is the same. For example, you need 100ml 40% methamethanol solution, and you only have 10% methylamethanol solution. You can add 400ml 10% methylamethanol solution to complete the reaction.
 

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Why is isopropyl added to methylamine+meoh? I have not seen the use of this solvent in other similar write ups
(Link in above post)
 

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Because it's needed to redissolve methylamine in IPA. It's a better option in compare with my write up cuz it allows to get rid of water and increase yield.
 

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Assuming you inadvertently add too much NaBH4 at once and the temperature rises to 30C, is there any way to save it or do you have to restart in any case?
Yes I know I'm a complete idiot... I added another 300ml of IPA to dilute everything again and now it looks like at least something is happening again.
 

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You need to avoid such temperature fluctuations cuz it reduces yield significantly. You can continue this batch. It's worth to get something instead of nothing.
 
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