Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)
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Your guide has helped me so much!
Once I have managed to find a reliable Mercury (II) Nitrate supplier I am ready to go!
Thanks so much for your work!!
Are you sure in your P2NP quality? Have you recrystallized this precursor and check melting point?
i think he meant the amalgamation was not good enough for the reaction.
Which might be the case, I could not nail it the yet, complications happened in the past with amalgamation. Last time I tried it the foil started crackling and smoking after being rinsed, but this time it wasnt reacting as aggressively, maybe that was the problem.
Which might be the case, I could not nail it the yet, complications happened in the past with amalgamation. Last time I tried it the foil started crackling and smoking after being rinsed, but this time it wasnt reacting as aggressively, maybe that was the problem.
yes, that is what i meant, thank you.
another tricky thing that some people have trouble with is adding too little salts for mlgm, counterintuitively the less you add the more it's gonna foam and bubble when you wash it(making you THINK it's well mlgmated).You want somewhat alert bubbling(no foam) with general greying of the sol. and your shiny bois floating to the top.When 80-90% percent have floated up proceed as usual.respect procedure, weigh out your salts, 1:1 (with reason).
and don't forget to have fun
another tricky thing that some people have trouble with is adding too little salts for mlgm, counterintuitively the less you add the more it's gonna foam and bubble when you wash it(making you THINK it's well mlgmated).You want somewhat alert bubbling(no foam) with general greying of the sol. and your shiny bois floating to the top.When 80-90% percent have floated up proceed as usual.respect procedure, weigh out your salts, 1:1 (with reason).
and don't forget to have fun
I recommend to do it in any case (measure each new supplier batch), if you want to be sure in your synthesis.
Hello, does anyone know of any European supplier of mercuric nitrate, mercuric chloride or nitric acid? A week ago I bought nitric acid from a supplier mentioned in this thread http://www.aurelio-online.com/
but I don't know if they will send it to me.
Thanks!
but I don't know if they will send it to me.
Thanks!
Check out Constantylious from the EU Supplier List on Breaking Bad
He has Mercury compunds and works with escrow.
You might want to stay away from the clearweb when it comes to those kind of chemicals
You can find all recommended suppliers here:
Onyxmet 10/10 from price to service to everything, pick up some sulphur while your're at it, it's cheap.
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Greetings to everyone again, we have a few questions about synthesis
1. Is it possible for P2NP to spoil or lose its property?
2. How to recognize the corrupt P2NP?
3. How and in what conditions do you keep P2NP? Should he be in the cold?
4. During synthesis, in the first step Al Amalgam. We worked on the instruction and 4 times the amalgation failed. When we added "Our Made Living Nitrate" reaction was too fast, in just ten minutes bubbles were created, dark liquid and all aluminum rose to the surface and we decided to assess amalgation and there were very few other aluminums, we have the impression that it has melted during amalgation. And when we added a solution of the prepared P2NP, the reaction was missing and there was no. What went wrong?
5. Before the unsuccessful synthesis above, we had one that had a great course, but at the end, when adding a caustic soda solution, we got too much of an amphetamine base, about 100ml, while in earlier procedures we got similar to the video synthesis. We realized that something was wrong and we added sulfuric acid as well, but it didn't respond.
6. Can it be used in the last step, instead of acetone, isopropile alcohol with sulfuric acid? Or was it exclusively acetone?
7. On one occasion we had an unusual large yield where we had approximately 3x more paste obtained. We mean a wet paste, once squeezed through the fabric. What could have been the cause?
P2np stood for a long time because we couldn't get to the mercury, so we doubt that our P2NP broke down, so we asked those few questions.
Otherwise we had a dozen successful synthesis until then.
Thanks for the answers in advance
1. Is it possible for P2NP to spoil or lose its property?
2. How to recognize the corrupt P2NP?
3. How and in what conditions do you keep P2NP? Should he be in the cold?
4. During synthesis, in the first step Al Amalgam. We worked on the instruction and 4 times the amalgation failed. When we added "Our Made Living Nitrate" reaction was too fast, in just ten minutes bubbles were created, dark liquid and all aluminum rose to the surface and we decided to assess amalgation and there were very few other aluminums, we have the impression that it has melted during amalgation. And when we added a solution of the prepared P2NP, the reaction was missing and there was no. What went wrong?
5. Before the unsuccessful synthesis above, we had one that had a great course, but at the end, when adding a caustic soda solution, we got too much of an amphetamine base, about 100ml, while in earlier procedures we got similar to the video synthesis. We realized that something was wrong and we added sulfuric acid as well, but it didn't respond.
6. Can it be used in the last step, instead of acetone, isopropile alcohol with sulfuric acid? Or was it exclusively acetone?
7. On one occasion we had an unusual large yield where we had approximately 3x more paste obtained. We mean a wet paste, once squeezed through the fabric. What could have been the cause?
P2np stood for a long time because we couldn't get to the mercury, so we doubt that our P2NP broke down, so we asked those few questions.
Otherwise we had a dozen successful synthesis until then.
Thanks for the answers in advance
1.Yes, by air and temp. above 8C
2.Darkened color, I would recrystalize even if it got just a bit more orange.You want it canary yellow.
3.Freezer, airtight, will keep for a good long while if its pure.
4.Read my post just above, you want alert-ish bubbling, no foam, no very evident reaction.If your mercury amalagam is amalgamating violently it's either too little or too much.Did you weigh it?Read patton's thread on isomer separation, it's good resource for synthesis too.
5.idk
6.Yes, it works no problem.
7.It can precipitate differently depending on solvent, conc. of precipitation sol., temp. of mother sol. and of precipitation sol., conc. of freebase in the ipa.It makes no difference.Don't use fabric, double bag coffee filters if qualitative paper is not on the menu,
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2.Darkened color, I would recrystalize even if it got just a bit more orange.You want it canary yellow.
3.Freezer, airtight, will keep for a good long while if its pure.
4.Read my post just above, you want alert-ish bubbling, no foam, no very evident reaction.If your mercury amalagam is amalgamating violently it's either too little or too much.Did you weigh it?Read patton's thread on isomer separation, it's good resource for synthesis too.
5.idk
6.Yes, it works no problem.
7.It can precipitate differently depending on solvent, conc. of precipitation sol., temp. of mother sol. and of precipitation sol., conc. of freebase in the ipa.It makes no difference.Don't use fabric, double bag coffee filters if qualitative paper is not on the menu,
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So, I took 5mg sample in 1ml methanol, but not all of the sample wanted to dissolve. After 10min. of shaking, solution was filtered trough 7micron syringe filter. Conducted GCMS analysis has shown that main peak was our desired one. Other compounds dissolved in sample was: P2NP, 2-phenyl-methylaziridine, 2-methyl-3-phenyl-aziridine, and the least abundant was benzylmethylketoxime, sum of byproducts less than 0.2% peak area (solvent not taken in equation). Other 100mg sample was incinerated in lab furnace leaving 16mg of dust insoluble in methanol. Next, the dust was tested with MgCl2 in ammonium buffer, with slide precipitation, so I'm assured, it is some phosphate inorganic salt. Thus, my yield in #437 post should be 6.05g instead of 7.2.
In addition to @UWe9o12jkied91d post, you can check melting point. This test clearly answers you about purity of your p2np.
