The powder pulled from amalgun rxn looks to b 1.5g but on scale it says 10g? It smells like amphetamine ,but when applying flame to burn some as freebase like the video of amphetamine salts smoking it does not melt into oil,it does nothing or turns to black ash afrer heated for long time. Is that correct,Theamphetamine sulfate cant be smoked? Is it messed up product somehow? Or is it okay?
Syntéza dextroamfetamínu (Nabenhauer, 1942)
- Thread starter G.Patton
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Okay good to know. Thank u.Is there a way to change it from sulfate to sum other salt so that it is smokeable?
- By G.Patton
Yes, basify this amph salt and then extract (acid-base extraction). Acidify by an appropriate acid.
I have tried the AL/HG a couple times with no success yet... typically the product separates from the sludge looking pink to red with no activity whatsoever. I'd like to try the dripping in idea but how are you keeping the aluminum from becoming non reactive as it sits there in air. I see you call to drop 30mls of water in but that won't cover the aluminum that is amalgamated and it doesn't take long for it to become unreactive. I have had this happen and the reaction just flat out stops. How are you keeping the reaction going?
- By G.Patton
That is typical result of overoxidation and overheating during acidification procedure.
You can don't wash your Al/Hg by water and carry out reaction directly there.
You can don't wash your Al/Hg by water and carry out reaction directly there.
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- By waltjr5858
So instead of washing out the salts just leave the aluminum underwater or at least just enough to cover them and start dropping in the p2np? Because reading your instructions on this one say to wash the amalgam and then put in 30 mL of water and then begin the dripping of p2np over the course of 50 minutes. I'm pretty sure 30 mL of water won't cover that much aluminum so how does it prevent from being oxidized or is it okay to have more water in there covering the aluminum fully Amalgamated and then drip in the p2np?
- By waltjr5858
Ok I will try that too but in the original instructions put up how is that kept from oxidation? And now if not rising when using 2g to 20ml of nitric acid to make Merc ii nitrate what ratio of that to aluminum is used? Too much and it eats the Al fast and too little and nothing happens? Doing it this way when is the right time to start dripping?
Just keep some mercury inthe rxn if u r havin aluminum dissolving issues ,maybe a little more acid,and apply heat. His method is slower and takes knowhow of how the synth works.u wana get it done succesfully first ,then change it however u can to better suit yourself. If the amalgum is fully reacted with the mercury u should have no issue gettin it going
Does this method of resolving a racemic mix to just D, also work for other amine’s?
So if I had R-MDA and want to make D-MDA, would this work exactly the same?
So if I had R-MDA and want to make D-MDA, would this work exactly the same?
- By G.Patton
Hello, yes, it can be used. Not sure about solvent solubility. There is different topic about methamphetamine with video tutorial.
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- By Rabidreject
Excellent. I’ll find some d-tartaric then. It’s surprisingly simple, I heard about the technique on a podcast and sounded highly useful
- By Ihml
It should be very similar to amphetamine synthesis.
Instead of P2NP, you would use MDP2NP. To make MDP2NP, you would use the same chemicals as for making P2NP. You would just need to use 3,4-(methylendioxy)benzaldehyde instead of benzaldehyde, and also adjust the amount of other reagents, since benzaldehyde has a lower molar mass.
Then you would reduce the MDP2NP with NaBH4 and CuCl2 to MDA. Again, with adjusted amounts of each chemicals, since MDP2NP has a bigger molar mass than P2NP.
Instead of P2NP, you would use MDP2NP. To make MDP2NP, you would use the same chemicals as for making P2NP. You would just need to use 3,4-(methylendioxy)benzaldehyde instead of benzaldehyde, and also adjust the amount of other reagents, since benzaldehyde has a lower molar mass.
Then you would reduce the MDP2NP with NaBH4 and CuCl2 to MDA. Again, with adjusted amounts of each chemicals, since MDP2NP has a bigger molar mass than P2NP.
what is the purpose of adding nickel chloride hydrate to this reaction ? A second catalyst?how does it work and should it be used?